New Nexus 7 Expected to Arrive in Stores 20 Jul

[afv011]

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Did you read the comments from that article? Android fanboys may be pretty bad, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find many on par with thise Apple fanboys.

Well, they've been waiting for an ipad mini with retina for a year, and the latest rumours say that it's not coming any time soon. Meanwhile, Google just released a tablet with 3x the pixels at 2/3 the price, so some are a bit ticked off

[Teknikal]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

It is perfectly normal for android to slow down over time, as applications are added, and cache get bigger. Having used low ram devices, the effect was striking.

Fix is to clean up the cache every now and then, watch out for apps using ram (hello facebook !!)

One person started a rumor, then everyone goes "oh bad memory"... No, just normal software issue.

And chrome used to cause serious mess, but again, no hardware issue, chrome issue...

I also advice reading this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1971852

I've read several articles in different places all about Asus Storage not wearing right and to be honest that makes me want to avoid their devices. I mean who wants to spend money on something that could be next to useless in a year all so Asus can charge a few pounds less and skimp on quality.

I don't think it's a rumour at all as both Asus and google have made attempts to limit the problem which is made worse by the low storage limits google insists upon 32 gb is pathetic in this day and age we should be seeing at least 128gb as standard already.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-ch...r-time_id44240

http://androidandme.com/2013/06/opin...ve-ever-owned/

This time a year ago I was convinced Asus were the company to watch now I think their the company to avoid say what you like about Samsung and Apple but at least they use high quality components throughout.

Originally Posted by BWinmill

Did you read the comments from that article? Android fanboys may be pretty bad, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find many on par with thise Apple fanboys.

BS, they can be just as stupid and opinionated! As you can see I cannot stand any fanboys whether they are fanboys of Apple, Android, Microsoft, Sony, Amazon, etc. They are all narrow-minded and never open to critical thinking.

[coolhardware]

Actually I checked again and Google's announcement is correct, the 2nd generation Nexus 7 is the highest pixel density tablet available: http://pixensity.com/list/tablet/

This now does not include phones/phablets etc.

I am going to pick one up on the 30th. Hopefully we can all chime in on a new-Nexus 7 review thread and see how nice this tablet is!

PS Anyone else have rumors/ideas of anything better in that form factor?

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by Teknikal

I've read several articles in different places all about Asus Storage not wearing right and to be honest that makes me want to avoid their devices. I mean who wants to spend money on something that could be next to useless in a year all so Asus can charge a few pounds less and skimp on quality.

I don't think it's a rumour at all as both Asus and google have made attempts to limit the problem which is made worse by the low storage limits google insists upon 32 gb is pathetic in this day and age we should be seeing at least 128gb as standard already.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-ch...r-time_id44240

http://androidandme.com/2013/06/opin...ve-ever-owned/

This time a year ago I was convinced Asus were the company to watch now I think their the company to avoid say what you like about Samsung and Apple but at least they use high quality components throughout.

I visit android site every now and then, i haven't seen even ONE people actually experiencing this issue, or complaining about similar symptoms.
And the problem referred to by your fist link is once again software, not hardware.

Just website making buzz on nothing, that's all. One or two N7 have issue, and everyone goes "Oh no all the N7 are going to break down right now !!!!".

Seriously...

[afv011]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

I visit android site every now and then, i haven't seen even ONE people actually experiencing this issue, or complaining about similar symptoms.
And the problem referred to by your fist link is once again software, not hardware.

Just website making buzz on nothing, that's all. One or two N7 have issue, and everyone goes "Oh no all the N7 are going to break down right now !!!!".

Seriously...

My understanding of the issue was that a bug in the EMMC driver caused faulty recycling of used blocks, leading to memory exhaustion, nothing to do with "poor or cheap flash".

[Teknikal]

Originally Posted by EowynCarter

I visit android site every now and then, i haven't seen even ONE people actually experiencing this issue, or complaining about similar symptoms.
And the problem referred to by your fist link is once again software, not hardware.

Just website making buzz on nothing, that's all. One or two N7 have issue, and everyone goes "Oh no all the N7 are going to break down right now !!!!".

Seriously...

Not one or two even on pro Android sites were they practically worship the Google Nexus brands the Nexus 7 is disdained because of it's laggy bad performance in fact it's on these pro Google sites I learned of this issue. Looking into a bit myself because I myself have a Nexus 7 I learned it isn't only the 7 that's effected it's pretty much everything made by Asus including their top end transformer line.

There are thousands of posts on the web about this absolutely everywhere including XDA and Google Play itself, try looking at the posts on the app forever gone (a supposed temporary fix that addresses the lack of hardware based trim).

While I'm not sure if every Nexus 7 is effected including my own as it takes time to show up or if the new one is going to be effected, I definitely see buying Asus as an unnecessary gamble until it's been shown clearly they have stopped using the bad nand storage.

[Bilbo1967]

As a Nexus 7 owner myself, I'd be interested in seeing links to the information you're talking about please.

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by Teknikal

Not one or two even on pro Android sites were they practically worship the Google Nexus brands the Nexus 7 is disdained because of it's laggy bad performance in fact it's on these pro Google sites I learned of this issue. Looking into a bit myself because I myself have a Nexus 7 I learned it isn't only the 7 that's effected it's pretty much everything made by Asus including their top end transformer line.

There are thousands of posts on the web about this absolutely everywhere including XDA and Google Play itself, try looking at the posts on the app forever gone (a supposed temporary fix that addresses the lack of hardware based trim).

While I'm not sure if every Nexus 7 is effected including my own as it takes time to show up or if the new one is going to be effected, I definitely see buying Asus as an unnecessary gamble until it's been shown clearly they have stopped using the bad nand storage.

They just lamely repeated the info.

See afv011 post above.
There are some lags issue, but it's SOFTWARE and can easily be fixed.

A website did some actual searching, asked people to do some test with various Nexus, there where no significant difference between the older one and the new one.
That website, in french sorry, and currently down.
https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j...49784469,d.ZG4

It's like the one time a few iPhone batteries burned... a few on millions, big deal, really.

[AnemicOak]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

As a Nexus 7 owner myself, I'd be interested in seeing links to the information you're talking about please.

Same, I have a Nexus 7 and the original Transformer.

[Teknikal]

Originally Posted by Bilbo1967

As a Nexus 7 owner myself, I'd be interested in seeing links to the information you're talking about please.

I'd just google search Nexus 7 trim bug or similar, but if it isn't effecting you I wouldn't worry about it I'm in the same boat really hoping I'm not effected, it's quite possible a lot of the Nexus 7's are uneffected depending on the storage used the only problem is no way to be sure until you have had it about a year or so.

I'd say enjoy your tablet and Google have made a few changes in android to make the bug less likely to appear so there is reason to be hopeful I'd just have preferred them to not go with asus again as I'd rather not buy from a company that cuts corners like that.

[EowynCarter]

Originally Posted by Teknikal

I'd just google search Nexus 7 trim bug or similar, but if it isn't effecting you I wouldn't worry about it I'm in the same boat really hoping I'm not effected, it's quite possible a lot of the Nexus 7's are uneffected depending on the storage used the only problem is no way to be sure until you have had it about a year or so.

I'd say enjoy your tablet and Google have made a few changes in android to make the bug less likely to appear so there is reason to be hopeful I'd just have preferred them to not go with asus again as I'd rather not buy from a company that cuts corners like that.

If you're affected , the trim bug can be fixed with this app :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...dmonkey.lagfix (see xda thread above..)
Memory is perfectly fine.
It's the same made in china memory than on all other tablets .

[Purple Lady]

Nexus 7 is available NOW in Best Buy and Staples!! I want the LTE so I still have to wait.

[tomsem]

Originally Posted by Purple Lady

Nexus 7 is available NOW in Best Buy and Staples!! I want the LTE so I still have to wait.

Amazon.com also. 2 cents off the retail price, free shipping for Prime members.

[graycyn]

Play Store is taking orders, with free shipping for a limited time, for those not near normal retail outlets. Supposed to ship by July 30th. I signed up for the notification and got the email earlier today.