Nook Color 2?

[SCION]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Yes, it's wrong, because Android TREATS the internal memory as an SD Card.

Is this acknowledged as a problem or is it just the way it's gonna be going forward?

[kennyc]

Well there was definitely an issue with the Xoom and the SD Card. It's possible that will change with Ice Creme Sandwich. Also there didn't seem to be issues with SD Cards in phones. It's all somewhat vague to me...

[SCION]

Originally Posted by kennyc

... It's all somewhat vague to me...

I thought I was the only one. Thanks.

[kennyc]

I just know that on the Xoom, the internal memory is accessed/named/treated (at the linux level) as an SD-Card under /mnt/sdcard and the external/plug-in SD card is under the /mnt/external1/

???

[wallcraft]

Originally Posted by slm

Some really important Android Apps--Dropbox , Nook and Kindle for three--REQUIRE an SD card since this is where they automatically place their storage.

It may be possible to fool the Fire into thinking that part of internal memory is a card.

Or it may not.

From the Amazon Appstore FAQ

Does Kindle Fire have an SD card?
Kindle Fire has an internal SD card that your application can write to. Kindle Fire's SD card is internal and is not removable. You should not have to change your app for Kindle Fire if it currently stores data on the SD card.

[kennyc]

Thanks for that confirmation Wallcraft.

[monkeyluis]

Leave us monkey's alone.

Going back to the price though. Do you really think it costs that much now-a-days to manufacturer an SD card reader into a device. I don't think the addt'l cost of a NC or NC 2 is because of an SD card reader. I just find it hard to believe. Then again, i'm not a manufacturer, so I have no idea.

Kenny, did they ever fix, or allow, the issue with the SD card reader in the Xoom? Is it functional now?

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by monkeyluis

Leave us monkey's alone.

Going back to the price though. Do you really think it costs that much now-a-days to manufacturer an SD card reader into a device. I don't think the addt'l cost of a NC or NC 2 is because of an SD card reader. I just find it hard to believe. Then again, i'm not a manufacturer, so I have no idea.

Kenny, did they ever fix, or allow, the issue with the SD card reader in the Xoom? Is it functional now?

Well, they certainly seem to "price" for most portable electronics based on internal memory and things like card slots, connectors, etc. I've seen a lot of arguing back and forth on the topic though.

The Xoom was released with two major discrepancies - a promise of upgrade to 4G and a non-working SD-Card slot. They took forever to "fix" the card slot, releasing in Europe before in U.S.A. and are right now doing the (free) upgrades to 4G which I'm likely to pass on as I simply don't use 3G that much but primarily used as a wi-fi device.

I can't say I'm happy with the implementation of the SD-Card and memory management as it does not connect as a DRIVE but as a device which makes it difficult to do certain things. (like sync/compare directories). In addition the SD-Card must be "Mounted" and "UnMounted" in order to see/use new content. It's pretty much a pita! (but yes it does work)

[wallcraft]

Originally Posted by monkeyluis

Going back to the price though. Do you really think it costs that much now-a-days to manufacturer an SD card reader into a device. I don't think the addt'l cost of a NC or NC 2 is because of an SD card reader. I just find it hard to believe. Then again, i'm not a manufacturer, so I have no idea.

I agree it is inexpensive, but if you are designing to a $249 price adding a $2 (say) card reader costs $2 in profit because you are not going to raise the price to $251. A bigger reason for avoiding card readers is the support costs. Amazon had a card reader on the Kindle 1, and I would not be surprised if it caused a large fraction of the hardware-based device returns. Even so, I think Amazon should have included a SD reader on the Fire because storing large movie files in the cloud isn't the same as storing ebooks there.

Originally Posted by SCION

That's what's going on with my Honeycomb tablet. All apps place there folder in internal storage thinking it's an SD card.../mnt/sdcard. The actual SD card is /mnt/sdcard2.

My Motorola Atrix phone is similar and uses the .../mnt/sdcard folder in internal storage as an SD card and the actual SD card is /mnt/sdcardext. Or at least something similar to that. My Atrix runs Gingerbread which is what the KFire will be running.

As far as prices, don't forget that Apple sold their original iPods at the typically high Apple price. So why did they succeed in sales and eventually take over the MP3 player market? Logic at the time suggested that would be too high and consumers would turn up their noses at iPods. However, Apple provided a turnkey solution by making it super simple and mindless to get music on your iPod for a great price because Apple had already put the iTunes store in place. Likewise Amazon has its stores for multi-media and eBooks well established and in place. Couple that with a $200 KFire and I really don't see the NC2 as able to compete with that complete Amazon system. B&N simply does not have the infrastructure in place to provide those multi-media services, nor do they have a good track record of turning out cutting edge firmware.