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Old 12-31-2010, 12:27 PM   #31
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pBooks not permanent either

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Believe me... the idealist in me wishes that very same thing. But he tends to get beat up regularly by the realist in me.
PBooks also get discarded by all folks except for book cover hoarders. I was reading pBooks from the Book of the Month Club 60 years ago and not one has survived the more than half century.

Every time I moved I discarded loads of useless garbage. Read books for me become useless garbage. I used to own over 200 Bibles. I now have about TWO left. They also ended up in the garbage heap.

Thus, when we buy a Kindle WiFi eBook, its really for the initial read. After that its all irrelevant. Bibles maybe can last a couple of years at MOST. After that new technology like the Osnova DVJ makes them obsolete as well.

I used to have loads of eBooks read on Adobe and Microsoft Reader. Changes through the years in the software have made all those ebooks unreadable as well.

Frankly, even accounting software evolves through the years and old accounting records preserved over 20 years ago now are unreadable as well. Technology is great but it also is the great destroyer. Even paper deteriorates with age unless preserved in special vacuum sealed glass.

I once came accross an old NY Times from 30 years ago. When I opened the first page, it all fell into dust.
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Old 12-31-2010, 01:24 PM   #32
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My argument is that digital goods should not be treated differently from the physical ones.
I disagree, but I don't believe that's even the issue here because it seems that in this case they were not treated differently. The customer was not deprived of digital goods he had acquired; he was deprived of a service yet unrendered that he had paid for in advance. Amazon discontinued that service (in this case because they were no longer able to provide it), and hence defaulted on the agreement. This sucks and I would be displeased as well, but their only obligation is to return what the customer exchanged for it.

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Amazon's Kindle "system" includes off-Kindle storage of the books you have purchased.
But is that really what it is? It's not storage of your books, it's access to their inventory of identical items. They only owe you the access, or a refund of what you paid for that access. If you think that is your stored property, try to go to Amazon headquarters and delete them from their server.

Despite not agreeing with it, I really enjoyed reading your argument, Osnova. It was refreshingly well stated, and forced me to ponder my perspective before responding.

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Old 12-31-2010, 05:14 PM   #33
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Believe me... the idealist in me wishes that very same thing. But he tends to get beat up regularly by the realist in me.
Ain't that the truth!

I have all my ebooks backed up on my computer. I am thinking of putting them in our companies Cloud. I do this with all my files. Saves a lot of heartache. If amazon didn't expect people to do this, then why would they have this option when purchasing books, and why would they have developed the kindle app for pc's.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:37 AM   #34
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I have a KJV,

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I saw that same review because i bought this bible just yesterday. now i need to find a good KJV one because thats what my pastor reads from...
searchable, original 1611 translation that I really like. I wish I could remember where I found it. I know I got it for free after researching it on Google.

I grew up with the KJV, I'm old, set in my ways, and I prefer immensely this particular version. I used to get really riled up about "versions" until I really got to looking and reading, prayerfully, in the Bible. Either God is who He says He is, or He's nothing at all, and He said, "My Word has gone out of My mouth and shall not come back to Me void," and "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, the same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him and without Him was not anything made that was made (John 1:XXX)

I am convinced that the Word of God will do what He wanted it to do whether is is in the KJV, NIV, or scribbled on the door in a public restroom. The bottom line? Jesus Saves.
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