New Kindle Voyage

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by johnnyb

Fire Phone Part 2 for Amazon...
149/199 would have been the maximum

I would take your opinion more seriously if Amazon wasn't already pushing out shipment dates.

Actually, since Kobo already tested the waters and sold far more of their $170 model than anyone expected, I probably wouldn't take your opinion seriously even then.

Clearly there is a market and a desire for a high end e-reader. Even if you aren't part of it.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by Yolina

Agreed, however I'm skipping the upgrade from my PW2 for the time being... I could easily afford the voyage but the price is just as that level where I start to think "do I really want it that much" instead of "it's cheap enough, I'll just get it"

Oh, absolutely, yes, I completely agree. What Amazon are now doing is offering three price-points into the Kindle ecosystem, with the Basic Kindle at the low-end, the PW in the middle, and the Voyage at the high-end. I certainly wouldn't see the Voyage as a replacement for the PW, and the fact that the PW remains available suggests that Amazon don't see it like that, either.

[mgmueller]

Should arrive on November 4th.
€ 249 for the 3G version.
Why? Because of the 3G, that's really my main reason. I want to be able to download and buy books wherever I am, not bothering about WiFi or roaming fees and such.
I'd like to see waterproof, but 3G + Amazon makes the deal for me already.

[John F]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

As to the Voyage, the magnesium case mentioned in the Engaget review as well as the etched glass, added sensors, etc are all fancy fit-n-finish touches typical of high end Premium products. It is neither an entry-level reader nor a value reader; the Touch2 and PW2 already serve those buyers.

Voyage is really meant for the serious Kindle fan who would never consider anything else and who will eagerly pay a $50 premium for what is literally The Best Kindle Money Can Buy. The only thing missing is the user's name laser etched on the back.

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As long as your etc doesn't include page turn buttons, I'm fine with that. When the PW3 comes out, I would like to see page turn buttons (and hopefully it will get the new high DPI screen).

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by John F

When the PW3 comes out, I would like to see page turn buttons (and hopefully it will get the new high DPI screen).

The only reason I don't think that will happen is that I can't imagine what they would then add to keep the high end model different. I don't think just the better body material is enough if they add all of the other features to the PW.

[Penforhire]

They'll get my money with the first lowered price I see. $200 makes a lot of sense considering my PW1 is still an awesome device. They are charging what the market will bear and I am certain they will drop it as soon as initial sales taper enough. That is SOP, considering I bought their Fire TV on one of their repeating '$16 off' sales.

Of course I want the improved resolution and lighting but I am even more excited about the flush bezel (yay, no more food stuck in edges and corners!) and slightly lighter weight. And yes, I wish it was maybe an inch bigger myself, with slightly smaller bezels. I could not care less about the page turn 'buttons,' being fully satisfied with page turns on my PW.

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by Penforhire

Of course I want the improved resolution and lighting but I am even more excited about the flush bezel (yay, no more food stuck in edges and corners!) and slightly lighter weight. And yes, I wish it was maybe an inch bigger myself, with slightly smaller bezels. I could not care less about the page turn 'buttons,' being fully satisfied with page turns on my PW.

I love how different things matter to different people.

I am most excited about the buttons. I want the improved resolution and lighting, and I couldn't care less about the flush bezel.

[HarryT]

Originally Posted by kaufman

I love how different things matter to different people.

I am most excited about the buttons. I want the improved resolution and lighting, and I couldn't care less about the flush bezel.

The only thing I don't like is that we can't run CC on it .

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The only thing I don't like is that we can't run CC on it .

That would be freaking awesome.

[John F]

Originally Posted by kaufman

I love how different things matter to different people.

I am most excited about the buttons. I want the improved resolution and lighting, and I couldn't care less about the flush bezel.

Yup.

And I don't care about the improved lighting. I never change my light on my Kobo (although I do use night mode).

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by Canuck_in_Japan

I'm pretty sure it's more than a $50 premium.

If the price were $149, would anybody be complaining?
Would anybody buy the PW2?

The spread between models is $80 but the luxury premium (the added cost from the "frills") is more like $50, judging by other vendors' hardware.

Think of it as the overpay to get the best and the shiniest Kindle.

[JoHunt]

It looks like Amazon sold out of some models on the first day of sale. The earliest shipping date for the $199 model has moved from October 21 to November 24.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by HarryT

The only thing I don't like is that we can't run CC on it .

I was wondering if Amazon might switch their eink readers to FIRE OS...

Maybe when they switch to Liquavista screens.

[kaufman]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

The spread between models is $80 but the luxury premium (the added cost from the "frills") is more like $50, judging by other vendors' hardware.

They say that 85% of the numbers on the internet are totally made up, but you only made up 50% of the numbers in your post, so that's pretty good.

[Barty]

Originally Posted by pdurrant

It's a disappointment, from my point of view.

300dpi and higher contrast is great. The new page turn mechanism sounds great.

But instead of getting rid of the fragile glass backplane, they've actually added more glass in front of the screen. Madness.

If only it had no glass in front, and a plastic backplane. Sigh... no new ebook reader for me this year.

I agree. Adding glass does not help with clarity. Unless it is glossy. Then you have glare problem.

It's like they have LCD envy and want to make eink note like LCD.

About higher contrast. Higher contrast than what? It uses the carta screen like the PW2, right? Didn't they c!aim the PW2 had higher contrast too? But it looks just like the PW 1 with a better light layer.

Luckily, it'll probably be in best buy so I can look at it in person . But at this point, the 6 in and high price really kill the interest for me.

PS: The page press, meh. Pressure sensitive sensor with haptic feedback. I think my KK had those. They're called buttons! And they didn't use battery to provide feedback either.