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Old 04-14-2021, 09:17 PM   #16
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Really? You do know they Dont Make Voyage any more? So that should tell you something since They Do Make PW Still!
Your comment is completely illogical. The Voyage is still sought after today and its display (and haptic touch) remains superior to all other models, IMHO. And, yes, I've owned them all, with exception of the very first Kindle. I bought two Voyages -- that ought to tell you something.
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Old 04-14-2021, 11:26 PM   #17
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I'd even argue that the current basic kindle has better contrast than the PW4 (which is worse than the PW3 it replaced as well).
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Old 04-15-2021, 01:55 AM   #18
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I'm asking specifically about screen quality because I'm considering buying a used Voyage vs a new pw
I just tried to count the LEDs in my Voyage screen -- I couldn't do it. They simply don't show up. There's no "cone-ing" and the screen is almost perfectly uniform. And this Voyage was not well treated by its former owner. (I got it fairly cheap at Shop Goodwill.)

BTW, you can get a new Voyage for the same price as a new PW4 -- $119 in retail packaging.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Amazon-...8AAOSwIyVc6yJc

(I can't personally vouch for the seller, but they look like an established business. They definitely have a high feedback rating.)

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Old 04-15-2021, 07:28 AM   #19
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The PW4 screen is not as clear/sharp as the PW3 screen.
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Old 04-15-2021, 10:56 AM   #20
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Nope. The screen of the Oasis is not as good as the Voyage screen. The light is more even and yes, the warm light feature is very nice to have, but the Voyage had better contrast, darker and sharper text and whiter background.

Personally I prefer the Oasis, but for pure screen quality the Voyage is unbeatable.
I have both. I just bought a new Oasis 3, and I still have a Voyage. I don't notice much difference in contrast. I just compared both side by side at equal screen brightness. Even with the Oasis warm light feature cut off, I thought it's light was warmer than the Voyage, which kinda gives the impression of less contrast. But in reality staring at the two, I don't see much differnce. Normally I read on an iPad with better contrast and size, but like having eink for reading in bed or outside.
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Old 04-15-2021, 11:20 AM   #21
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I have both. I just bought a new Oasis 3, and I still have a Voyage. I don't notice much difference in contrast. I just compared both side by side at equal screen brightness. Even with the Oasis warm light feature cut off, I thought it's light was warmer than the Voyage, which kinda gives the impression of less contrast. But in reality staring at the two, I don't see much differnce. Normally I read on an iPad with better contrast and size, but like having eink for reading in bed or outside.
Well, I could see the difference clearly. It was not a huge difference, by any means, but it was there. It didn't bother me, but it might bother someone else.
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Old 04-15-2021, 02:40 PM   #22
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I agree with everyone here who agrees with me:

The Voyage was the sharpest ereader ever put out by Amazon. The OP's question is this: Is the newest ["latest"] Kindle Paperwhite (in whatever incarnation) sharper than the Voyage?

The OP owns the Voyage, so I'm sure he/she is quite aware that the Voyage is no longer made. That was never the question.

Yes, I think there's a bit of jealously (envy?) involved.

I proudly own a Voyage AND the current version of the Oasis. The Oasis is wonderful, but it isn't as clear as my Voyage.
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Old 04-15-2021, 03:14 PM   #23
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I think consensus is that PW4 < PW3 < Oasis < Voyage when it comes to screen quality.

Where consensus diverges is how important that is relative to other features, including cost. When those are factored in, PW4 is optimal for me (though I reserve right to change my mind when someone gives me an Oasis).
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I think consensus is that PW4 < PW3 < Oasis < Voyage when it comes to screen quality.

Where consensus diverges is how important that is relative to other features, including cost. When those are factored in, PW4 is optimal for me (though I reserve right to change my mind when someone gives me an Oasis).
I think the PW3 is very similar to the Oasis. So it would go (from best to worst)...

Voyage > Oasis 3 & PW3 > PW4 > Kindle Basic
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I'd argue if you're not sensitive to resolution differences, that you'd flip the basic and PW4.
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I'd argue if you're not sensitive to resolution differences, that you'd flip the basic and PW4.
I'd put any Reader with an 800x600 screen at the end.
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I'd put any Reader with an 800x600 screen at the end.
A Pocketbook 360, which has a 5" 800x600 screen, looks quite nice.
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I think the PW3 is very similar to the Oasis. So it would go (from best to worst)...



Voyage > Oasis 3 & PW3 > PW4 > Kindle Basic
Kind of a shame that Amazon haven't equaled / surpassed a product they made 4 years ago on this one rather important metric.

What happened there with the PS4? Why the backslide?
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Kind of a shame that Amazon haven't equaled / surpassed a product they made 4 years ago on this one rather important metric.
4? 6 and a half, by my reckoning.

Yes, it's a shame. Perhaps they found the manufacturing just too expensive or something.
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4? 6 and a half, by my reckoning.



Yes, it's a shame. Perhaps they found the manufacturing just too expensive or something.
As soon as I posted it, I thought "is that right? Seems like that was ages ago". You are correct, the Voyage came out November 2014.

I just read the PW4 uses a plastic-backed screen rather than glass. Maybe that's the difference. I wonder if it's been shown to be less prone to breakage.
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