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Enjoy your delusion. It's quite clear you have zero objectivity where Amazon is concerned.
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Kindle reading apps and devices have multiple renderers for books in reflowable formats. The renderer used depends on the particular format in which the book is delivered to the device. The original MOBI renderer is based on a subset of HTML 3 and is the least capable. KF8 uses an outdated version of webkit and supports much richer formatting. KFX is totally proprietary to Amazon and adds things not available with the older renderers, like automatic hyphenation and ligature substitution. Now, as JSWolf points out, Amazon could have improved e-book presentation using a more standard approach. But as things stand now KFX is required to enable some presentation features. Quote:
There is a difference between reflowable and fixed layouts and the formats that support them. There are also new KFX variants of the original formats used for textbooks, magazines and comics with capabilities beyond those provided by the original renderers for those formats. Last edited by jhowell; 09-22-2019 at 09:01 AM. |
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If Amazon gradually makes more new books only available in KFX format it will force users of older devices to upgrade if they want to purchase those books. And because KFX-only books cannot be downloaded for USB transfer it will also block that work-around. |
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To be fair: people thought much the same thing when KF8 was rolled out. Yet here we are, still able to buy most of the ebooks available on Amazon in a format that will work on the very first incarnation of the Kindle device.
I'm not saying they won't eventually phase out support for older devices and formats. I'm just saying they've been very reluctant to do so up until now. Had they wanted to, they could have just as easily, and aggressively, and continually, altered the DRM on KF8, and closed all the Download via USB loopholes to force K1 and K2 users to upgrade and effectively eliminate the older mobi format. But they didn't--and they haven't. So I'm not quite ready to drink the lock-everyone-into-the-kfx-format-and-obsolete-all-older-devices/formats kool-ade just yet. Not when they've had ample opportunity (not to mention motive) to do so multiple times in the past. There's still tons of those older devices out there, but they're being used less and less. Because they've already proven they can get enough costumers to voluntarily update to newer devices and newer formats without using the draconian methods they've always had at their disposal in order to do so. They don't need to close the loopholes, because more than enough people voluntarily use the formats/devices they want them to use. Which means they can easily afford to ignore the ones who don't; without needing to waste the time and effort of pissing them off by abandoning them (or cutting them off). Last edited by DiapDealer; 09-22-2019 at 09:41 AM. |
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What might get people to upgrade old devices is if Amazon would allow separate uploads. One for Mobi and one for KF8. This way, more advanced formatting could be used with KF8 without worry of breaking the Mobi. Then to get the better formatted eBook, you upgrade your Kindle.
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Yes, I know why it exists. But it makes some eBooks harder to make as you have to cater for Mobi at the same time. So in some cases, you have to dumb down your eBook formatting.
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The main area that still makes no sense to me is that Amazon continues to deliver the older formats through the "Download & transfer via USB" option on their website even for devices that support KFX. I suppose that option may be used infrequently enough that they do not consider it to be worth upgrading. Still, that seems to me to be the most likely thing for them to change. There are expensive textbooks that Amazon is making available only in KFX format and only on devices and apps with unbroken DRM. I believe that choice may be publisher driven. Perhaps other publishers may opt for that out of piracy paranoia, but I doubt it will be commonplace. |
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Switching the download to KFX would prevent that secondary use while actually providing a better experience for the intended users of that feature, since they would have enhanced typesetting in their USB transferred book. |
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Yes it does, however it would be easy for Amazon to provide a single ZIP file containing all of the individual KFX files and have the Kindle unpack it automatically.
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The KF8 version of a book with drop caps does not look quite as nice. Selecting the drop cap still highlights the whole word for lookup in dictionary whether you have the kf8 or kfx version. Now tell me again which minor changes to the KF8 renderer need to be done to have perfect drop caps? |
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