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Perhaps I am missing something, but, as kg3 posted above, the most likely reason, particularly with new releases, is that all copies are currently on loan. I've always assumed available referred to copies available for lending at the time you are browsing, If this is not the case has anyone come across a situation where there is one or more books "available" but you are nevertheless still invited to place a hold?
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This is the message at my library;
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I had that happen with a book I had recommended about 1.5 years ago. I suspect that they had turned down my recommendation and because I had chosen to be put on the waiting list if they bought the book it added it to my holds for some reason. Maybe in the vetting process they had put it on the "get" list and then changed their mind or something.
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Agreed. I didn't take the OP's question as referring to copies the library owned being zero as well, but his example clearly shows this. The only logical explanation I can think of is that this is a book that the library has ordered but has no copy as yet. I hesitate to use the term pre-release, as it seems that books are often released for some time before an ebook is made available to the library.
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Perhaps your library system works differently from mine, but at the library systems I patronize, the number of checkouts is limited but not the number of holds.
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My library has limits for both. We get 15 checkouts at a time and also 15 holds at a time. It's set by the individual library.
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My library shares books between 3 libraries. Sometimes a different library purchases the ebook rights and if it expires they may opt not to renew that license leaving the copies at zero. To clarify a bit: Some libraries purchase ebook rights for x number of checkouts (say 12) OR for 1 year (time period). When that expires, they have to repurchase the book under whatever the contract requires. The payment for books varies. But ask your librarian. It's a very complex situation with different rules for each publisher. |
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The current Big 5 library rules are... Penguin Random House License: Perpetual Prices: Varies, $65 per book max HarperCollins License: 26 loans then must repurchase Prices: Varies, generally not more than cost of HC equivalent and often less Macmillan License: 2 Years/52 loans (whichever comes first) then must repurchase Prices: Titles less than 12 month old $60, older than 12 months $40 Simon & Schuster License: Expires after one year, then must repurchase (experimenting with 2 yr term for 1.5x price) Prices: Generally more than consumer cost, but less than hardcover Hachette License: Perpetual Priceing: Generally 3 times hardcover price. Info from American Libraries Magazine http://americanlibrariesmagazine.org...rms-011816.pdf |
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If you click on the ? next to the number of holds for the item, it says:
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My overdrive library allows 6 holds and 6 checkouts. Fortunately everyone in the family has a library card. There are a few books I have been able to put on hold that were not out yet. Most are recommended and when someone gets around to adding it to the overdrive library I'll automatically get it added to my hold list, which then allows, apparently, more than 6 in that case.
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The oddest thing just happened. An eBook I have on reserve that was not due in until February 16 has just become available and I was able to download it.
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