TechCrunch: Amazon’s Kindle Tablet Is Very Real

[Synergi]

Originally Posted by boswd

Oh i'm just messing around. besides I'm sure iOS fanboy's have their squabbles too. The internet is tough place in these types of debates.

But you can't blame Android for Samsung's lack of update's HTC is well known to update their high end phones pretty timely. And Moto isn't too shabby themselves I have the Droid X and I bought it at the end of July 2010 with 2.1 (Eclair) in september I had 2.2 (Froyo) and about 3 months ago 2.3 (Gingerbread) . That's 2 major updates in a year.

iOS only does one major update per year, they may do small ones for bug fixes or small features but they don't roll out a ton a major updates throughout the year.

I like Amazon's ecosytem, i do like it better than iTunes, and it's more vesatile, the only app it's lacking as of right now is Amazon Video on Demand, I have it on my Roku box so I hope they don't close it off to the rest of the android world and keep it only on their tablets. I mean we already have Amazon mp3, Amazon cloud, Kindle, and it's App store.

We'll see. I for one won't be too excited for their first one. That one will most likely be just an answer to the nook color, The larger 10 inch tablet is the one I'm keeping an eye on.

My husband says his Evo is still 2.2 he got it in June or July of last year, got 2.2 in September and hasn't seen an update since.

Yes it is the manufacturers who are screwing up Android and Google has been letting them, all in the name of openness. If Telco isn't screwing people, over with endless bloatware, then the manufacturer is with lack of support and half assed products. True that Apple releases one update a year, but they aren't releasing 20 different phones a month and giving one an update and not the other. 2 to 3 years is more then fair as most upgrade every two to three years. I have never felt obsolete with my apple devices until they were actually obsolete. I can't say that for my Android phone when a new one is released a month later with an updated OS and features I won't get without some hackery.

While in my case, it may be Samsung's fault they haven't bothered to fix my GPS in all this time, a lot of consumers will think its a Samsung/Android problem. If google stopped allowing them to throw android on products that aren't fully ready, and at the very least, fix the problems they half assed on, then I wouldn't see a problem.

But like I said, I like Android, I like IOS, hell I'd buy WebOS if I liked it, but I do like a consistent experience across devices. That is why I like Amazon and kindle. I get a pretty consistent experience no matter which of my devices I pick up and start reading on.

[Synergi]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

AmTab's version of android will be treated like Judas.

I know, isn't it wonderful? Can't wait to get it.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by Synergi

My husband says his Evo is still 2.2 he got it in June or July of last year, got 2.2 in September and hasn't seen an update since.

Yes it is the manufacturers who are screwing up Android and Google has been letting them, all in the name of openness. If Telco isn't screwing people, over with endless bloatware, then the manufacturer is with lack of support and half assed products. True that Apple releases one update a year, but they aren't releasing 20 different phones a month and giving one an update and not the other. 2 to 3 years is more then fair as most upgrade every two to three years. I have never felt obsolete with my apple devices until they were actually obsolete. I can't say that for my Android phone when a new one is released a month later with an updated OS and features I won't get without some hackery.

While in my case, it may be Samsung's fault they haven't bothered to fix my GPS in all this time, a lot of consumers will think its a Samsung/Android problem. If google stopped allowing them to throw android on products that aren't fully ready, and at the very least, fix the problems they half assed on, then I wouldn't see a problem.

But like I said, I like Android, I like IOS, hell I'd buy WebOS if I liked it, but I do like a consistent experience across devices. That is why I like Amazon and kindle. I get a pretty consistent experience no matter which of my devices I pick up and start reading on.

Hmmm he may want to check again he should have gotten it in the beginning of the summer

HTC EVO™ 4G from Sprint will receive the Android™ 2.3, Gingerbread, update through an over-the-air maintenance release beginning on Monday, June 6.


Sprint will send update notifications to users in waves. The notification will let users know the update is available and provide the simple two-step, over-the-air download instructions.



Users will receive a notification that Android 2.3 is available for download.


Once the user has downloaded the update, they will be prompted to install the update. The user will be notified that their device will be disabled during the installation process. The phone will be ready to use once the process completes.

Can't Wait Until June 6?

http://community.sprint.com/baw/comm...erbread-update

[Sil_liS]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

Amazon seems to be stirring up their ire as well, and I suspect the AmTab's version of android will be treated like Judas.

Judas is a much better name than AmTab, or KTab.

[Synergi]

[QUOTE=boswd;1735448]Hmmm he may want to check again he should have gotten it in the beginning of the summer

Users will receive a notification that Android 2.3 is available for download.


He's going to check into why he hasn't gotten it.

Thanks.

[stonetools]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

Apple fanboys are crazy in a numb, passive way, which is bizarre enough as it is. Android nuts are consumed by hatred-- psychotic. Amazon seems to be stirring up their ire as well, and I suspect the AmTab's version of android will be treated like Judas.

Does owning one Apple device after 14 years of having computing devices make me an Apple fanboy? Who knew??


+1 your view of Android fans' probable reaction to Amazon. The android fanboy doctrine tells us that Android is all about freedom and openness-the unfenced range instead of " walled gardens" . They suspect (rightly, IMO) that Android is about to depart from the scriptures in a big way and set up the its own walled garden on the open plains of Android. They are already preparing to condemn the heretics that may stray into that forbidden garden and eat of the orange fruit therein .

[Synergi]

I've been waiting for it. Amazon set up their APP store first and got people use to using it even before they had a device that could utilize it.

A lot of your cheap Android tablets using 2.1 or so, don't have access to the market at all without hackery. Not a problem with Amazon, come on over.. If google didn't want these tablets to run phone version of Android, I think they should have exercised a little more control over what it could be put on.

Hey the manufacturers didn't care, they saw the iPad and had to get something out the door. Consumer is the one that suffered for that. Yes you can get market on with hackery, but many consumers aren't going to go through the trouble, but thats ok. Google said your 2.2 isn't good enough? Amazon says it is..come on over..

If I were google, I'd want my users to have a more consistent experience.. not this device is awesome, but wait, this one was crap.

But its ok, Google can thank Amazon for taking control and showing them how to do it.

I've made up my mind I won't buy another kindle e-ink until they go color. I don't see how Kindle 3 could get much better.

[djulian]

Originally Posted by Synergi

I've made up my mind I won't buy another kindle e-ink until they go color. I don't see how Kindle 3 could get much better.

+1 to this--the new color e-ink screens look great.

I am interested in Sony's touch-based, stylus note input. I wonder if that works well, or if the implementation creates more frustrations than anything else.

[Synergi]

Originally Posted by djulian

+1 to this--the new color e-ink screens look great.

I am interested in Sony's touch-based, stylus note input. I wonder if that works well, or if the implementation creates more frustrations than anything else.

I originally bought a Pocket Edge with 7'' e-ink. It was good for reading but I just couldn't take good notes on such a small screen. So I got the Entourage Edge 10'' instead. That one is near perfect for writing notes. Its an awesome device for students or anyone that likes to mark up books or PDF's. I don't know what Sony is using, the Edge has Wacom and Wacom is the awesome.

I was, though interested in HTC's Flyer (7'') and they have another 10'' model but I think its tied to AT&T. No thank you, I spent 2 years counting the days I could unshackle myself from them lol..

Someone has a color e-ink coming out in December for around 350.. It looks nice..

[vaughnmr]

[QUOTE=Synergi;1735514]

Originally Posted by boswd

Hmmm he may want to check again he should have gotten it in the beginning of the summer

Users will receive a notification that Android 2.3 is available for download.


He's going to check into why he hasn't gotten it.

Thanks.

There's actually been several updates since then, so he probably has updates turned off. Worst case, go to the Sprint store and see what's wrong with his phone, and that may be why he can't run Autocad WS. The latest updates greatly improve battery life and overall android experience, so it's worth it for those alone. I've got the Sprint extended battery, so I'm getting 2-3 days normal use (no GPS or Wifi unless needed), but with any smartphone YMMV. Also, no dropped calls like almost all the iphone users I know in my area (north Texas, again YMMV). Not to knock the iphone, but when iphone users see my EVO they are definitely impressed.

[Synergi]

[QUOTE=vaughnmr;1735632]

Originally Posted by Synergi

There's actually been several updates since then, so he probably has updates turned off. Worst case, go to the Sprint store and see what's wrong with his phone, and that may be why he can't run Autocad WS. The latest updates greatly improve battery life and overall android experience, so it's worth it for those alone. I've got the Sprint extended battery, so I'm getting 2-3 days normal use (no GPS or Wifi unless needed), but with any smartphone YMMV. Also, no dropped calls like almost all the iphone users I know in my area (north Texas, again YMMV). Not to knock the iphone, but when iphone users see my EVO they are definitely impressed.

Evo is a very nice phone. Its heavy but it feels solid. Now if I could just get my Samsung screen on his phone, I'd be really happy hehe.. I actually had the Epic, loved it, but while he could get a 5 bar signal at work, I got 0 at home so I had to send it back. I really wanted a phone with a keyboard. By that time, I was hooked on the Samsung screen. Very nice colors..

[OtterBooks]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Does owning one Apple device after 14 years of having computing devices make me an Apple fanboy? Who knew??


+1 your view of Android fans' probable reaction to Amazon. The android fanboy doctrine tells us that Android is all about freedom and openness-the unfenced range instead of " walled gardens" . They suspect (rightly, IMO) that Android is about to depart from the scriptures in a big way and set up the its own walled garden on the open plains of Android. They are already preparing to condemn the heretics that may stray into that forbidden garden and eat of the orange fruit therein .

Merely preferring their products doesn't make you a fanboy. I know Apple fanboys. It's a whole different level.

Honestly I can understand the allure of taking an "anti-" stance after being subjected to fanatics of any persuasion. Fire with fire, and so forth.

But yeah it's kinda of funny to think that Amazon will cause there to be a triangle of hatred. Apple fanboys vs. Amazon fanboys vs. Android fanboys. It's a triple-A triangle..and hey the letter 'A' is almost kind of a triangle. I think this means something. The Trinity. Maybe it's a sign of the Apocal- omg another A.

[Synergi]

Originally Posted by OtterBooks

The Trinity. Maybe it's a sign of the Apocal- omg another A.

LOL, I wonder how long before Amazon is knee deep in lawsuits.

[boswd]

Originally Posted by stonetools

Does owning one Apple device after 14 years of having computing devices make me an Apple fanboy? Who knew??


+1 your view of Android fans' probable reaction to Amazon. The android fanboy doctrine tells us that Android is all about freedom and openness-the unfenced range instead of " walled gardens" . They suspect (rightly, IMO) that Android is about to depart from the scriptures in a big way and set up the its own walled garden on the open plains of Android. They are already preparing to condemn the heretics that may stray into that forbidden garden and eat of the orange fruit therein .

Actually I'm not really sure how closed off it can be. The only thing I can think of is Amzon VOD for renting and buying movies. I mean their ebook store, their MP3 store, their cloud service, and their app store are all open to all Android consumbers.

[boswd]

[QUOTE=Synergi;1735514]

Originally Posted by boswd

Hmmm he may want to check again he should have gotten it in the beginning of the summer

Users will receive a notification that Android 2.3 is available for download.


He's going to check into why he hasn't gotten it.

Thanks.

You're welcome, see I'm not all bad