902 Pocketbook 902: first impressions and questions

[paola]

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.

And is already full functional since this weekend (a few hours after I posted the last screenshots). I spent less than 3 days on that work... The question is: why PocketBook did not do it by itself? Why, instead his staff insulted me on their support forum? And why in response to these insults I should to raise the cost of their devices with LOT of my free work?.. Because if I release this port - it will be a completely different class devices, a higher class devices... Now I just enjoy reading on this device with CoolReader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlAXCmbPio

Say "thanks" to PocketBook and its caddish support forum staff...

Hi Jimstar, I completely understand your point, and I am grateful for your determination to contribute here, in spite of having been ostracised elsewhere - but please please do it for us

[lunohod]

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.

And is already full functional since this weekend (a few hours after I posted the last screenshots). I spent less than 3 days on that work... The question is: why PocketBook did not do it by itself? Why, instead his staff insulted me on their support forum? And why in response to these insults I should to raise the cost of their devices with LOT of my free work?.. Because if I release this port - it will be a completely different class devices, a higher class devices... Now I just enjoy reading on this device with CoolReader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlAXCmbPio

Say "thanks" to PocketBook and its caddish support forum staff...

You are my hero, JimStar! And it's not sarcasm or irony. I really adore you.

[marty63]

I wrote here - You Are A Star, Jim

[rfog]

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.

And is already full functional since this weekend (a few hours after I posted the last screenshots). I spent less than 3 days on that work... The question is: why PocketBook did not do it by itself? Why, instead his staff insulted me on their support forum? And why in response to these insults I should to raise the cost of their devices with LOT of my free work?.. Because if I release this port - it will be a completely different class devices, a higher class devices... Now I just enjoy reading on this device with CoolReader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlAXCmbPio

Say "thanks" to PocketBook and its caddish support forum staff...

Jim, perhaps you want to release this port with a license for no commercial use (sell integrated in a device) or for no use by PocketBook company before they purchase you a Licen$$$$$e.

But all community is waiting for you. :t hanks:

[mtravellerh]

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.

And is already full functional since this weekend (a few hours after I posted the last screenshots). I spent less than 3 days on that work... The question is: why PocketBook did not do it by itself? Why, instead his staff insulted me on their support forum? And why in response to these insults I should to raise the cost of their devices with LOT of my free work?.. Because if I release this port - it will be a completely different class devices, a higher class devices... Now I just enjoy reading on this device with CoolReader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlAXCmbPio

Say "thanks" to PocketBook and its caddish support forum staff...

Congratulations. This looks great indeed.

I don't think we (PB) insulted you here on MobileRead.

I would love it if you were offering this to our users! Thanks in advance.

[jotas]

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.

And is already full functional since this weekend (a few hours after I posted the last screenshots). I spent less than 3 days on that work... The question is: why PocketBook did not do it by itself? Why, instead his staff insulted me on their support forum? And why in response to these insults I should to raise the cost of their devices with LOT of my free work?.. Because if I release this port - it will be a completely different class devices, a higher class devices... Now I just enjoy reading on this device with CoolReader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlAXCmbPio

Say "thanks" to PocketBook and its caddish support forum staff...

A very good point! I understand perfectly, whatever your decide.

Great work, great opinion. Congratulations.

[The]

Originally Posted by paolamanzini

Hi Jimstar, I completely understand your point, and I am grateful for your determination to contribute here, in spite of having been ostracised elsewhere - but please please do it for us

For what, dear? What kind of contributes do you mean? As for me I see clearly that here's no any port and no ports will be from Jim at a long later date

look at:

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.
And why in response to these insults I should to... (bla bla bla and so on)

Vulnerable ego and uncontrollable boasting are only available instead of port

[Logseman]

Originally Posted by JimStar

Yes, it IS installed on my 902 2.0.4.

And is already full functional since this weekend (a few hours after I posted the last screenshots). I spent less than 3 days on that work... The question is: why PocketBook did not do it by itself? Why, instead his staff insulted me on their support forum? And why in response to these insults I should to raise the cost of their devices with LOT of my free work?.. Because if I release this port - it will be a completely different class devices, a higher class devices... Now I just enjoy reading on this device with CoolReader...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vlAXCmbPio

Say "thanks" to PocketBook and its caddish support forum staff...

I would rather say "thanks" to you for porting CoolReader on our devices.

I do not know what you have been going through with Pocketbook's staff. However, I would like to remind people of a little story which happened here not long ago, on Pocketbook 902's launch. The German-speaking folks do already know it and probably understood it better than me, so feel free to correct me if I am not precise in some point.

We had a user called Passepartout who was very interested in Pocketbook 902. He kinda became enthusiastic about the thing, because it had a lot of features which he would enjoy. When he received the thing, he opened a thread and he promised and delivered a very detailed report about the device, probably one of the most thorough user reviews around here.

Alas, Passepartout wasn't happy with the device. The screen didn't seem to him as readable as he had imagined, and that killed much of the pleasure for him. He returned the device eventually. However, when he announced these things, the thread became a flame thread. People praised or loathed Pocketbook, the device itself, and so on. Since some of the comments stated that perhaps Passepartout's review could have some flaws or bias, he believed that his hard work was suddenly put in doubt and reviled, he felt insulted and he withdrew his review from the first post of his thread. It was one of the greatest reviews ever done for a device, even if it had been a personal bother for him. With his review, Passepartout had rendered a service for many people who had entered the thread (which was the most visited in the whole Mobileread for a couple of days) became aware of Pocketbook 902's advantages and shortcomings. In the end we, the ones who had simply followed the evolution of his thread, managed to convince him that the community service of his great review had been the most important part of the whole experience, and his review is back up in the forum.

In this case, we have a situation with many parallels to the one that I've recalled here: we have you, JimStar, whose effort has brought a result which can give a huge service to the community of Pocketbook users, who are not in Pocketbook's paycheck and certainly have not insulted you, but praised your work here and in other forums. We have your strife with some people who you consider have insulted you. And, just like in Passepartout's case with his monumental review, you are the master of your own work: you are completely free to withhold your CoolReader port at your will, or to publish it with whatever license you feel appropriate. I own a Pocketbook 360, maybe I will not benefit of CoolReader in my device (I do in Android though), but here is hope that you will release the program to the public. You can count with a big Thanks/Danke/Gracias/Спасибо from everyone here, and possibly with a donation or two for your hard work from people who would like to treat you.

Just my two cents.

[savingtrees]

I'm not interested in any flame war but honestly, what is JimStar trying to achieve with his comments about the development of Cool Reader?
The source code has been published under the GPL licence, this means that everyone who modifies the source code and publishes it, has to publish the source code with all modifications as well. The reason for that is so that no one can make the big money by mostly other peoples work. Let me explain what this mean: JimStar has certainly invested a good amount of his free time into the development of the ported source code (three days) but what is the amount of time the creator of Cool Reader has put into the development? Much, much more time. And what is his reward??? So what is JimStar really looking for? Is he looking for the big pay check by pocketbook? That would be unfair wouldn't it? The creator of Cool Reader who did most of the work is not getting a penny and JimStar should be paid?

I'm not a programmer myself, but what do you think would happen if JimStar continues to refuse to publish his contribution? Yes, it is just a matter of time until another person invests three days and ports it. Don't you think so?

[lunohod]

Originally Posted by savingtrees

The source code has been published under the GPL licence, this means that everyone who modifies the source code and publishes it, has to publish the source code with all modifications as well.

Why does PocketBook refuse to publish their modifications to the linux kernel, FBReader and dozen of other GPL-licensed components? Maybe it isn't worth it to give the results of your own efforts to a company, which will take it and make it proprietary and closed source (against the license and thus infringing your copyright; as it did with FBReader, for example)?

[mtravellerh]

Originally Posted by lunohod

Why does PocketBook refuse to publish their modifications to the linux kernel, FBReader and dozen of other GPL-licensed components? Maybe it isn't worth it to give the results of your own efforts to a company, which will take it and make it proprietary and closed source (against the license and thus infringing your copyright; as it did with FBReader, for example)?

We do not refuse, will publish our open source components next month.

[lunohod]

Originally Posted by mtravellerh

We do not refuse, will publish our open source components next month.

I've heard something like that almost a year ago, but there are still no sources available. Well, let's hope it will happen some day, this will help to improve the fbreader180 and other custom software.

[mobijupp]

Originally Posted by savingtrees

So what is JimStar really looking for? Is he looking for the big pay check by pocketbook?

I think JimStar is looking for: PB shall do the work for which we have paid for ( by buying their devices).
And not to sit in the Ukrain and count our money as opposed to directly employ programmers by themselves.

For me it's a pain, too: buying such a device and still reading on PC.
But I'm willing to wait,
because I agree with JimStar.
He does it the right way:
- Show every customer what is possible.
- Show every customer how easy it is.
-but not show PB how to make it

I think, this is the pressur PB needs to get their a.. off the couch.

Excuse my bad english

[skydive]

AGREE!!!!

Originally Posted by mobijupp

I think JimStar is looking for: PB shall do the work for which we have paid for ( by buying their devices).
And not to sit in the Ukrain and count our money as opposed to directly employ programmers by themselves.

For me it's a pain, too: buying such a device and still reading on PC.
But I'm willing to wait,
because I agree with JimStar.
He does it the right way:
- Show every customer what is possible.
- Show every customer how easy it is.
-but not show PB how to make it

I think, this is the pressur PB needs to get their a.. off the couch.

Excuse my bad english

[rfog]

Originally Posted by lunohod

I've heard something like that almost a year ago, but there are still no sources available. Well, let's hope it will happen some day, this will help to improve the fbreader180 and other custom software.

I think it is so easy to put the PB GPL violations in knowing of FSF and let them act...

However, despite all that is happening, we still need to give them a [little] vote of confidence.