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Old 11-26-2019, 03:19 PM   #211
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Nothing you're proposing is likely to be limited by processor speed, IMHO. But everything you do will be limited by RAM and disk access time. The 8GB in the HP plus the SSD will make it a faster system for your uses, I suspect. Frankly, the only way I'd go with the Dell is if I intended to immediately swap out the HDD for an SSD. Which totally negates the price advantage.
Thanks CRussel. I've got another one I'm considering. It's got the i3 processor and 8GB, but a SATA hard drive. What do you think?

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron...pc&sr=1-1&th=1

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Found that desktop model at HP's site:

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c06442766

The processor is 3200U, a 2-core, 4-thread mobile processor with a Passmark score of 4675 which should be plenty for your needs, similar to older AMD A10's. The i3 8100 is a true desktop processor with 4 cores ans a Passmark score of 8000 (close to my 2nd gen core i7). There's hardly any difference between the two GPU's. So unless you plan to add at least another 4GB to the Dell, I'd also lean toward the HP. The HP appears to have HDMI but not DVI, so make sure you have or get a monitor with HDMI (watch out for heavily discounted DVI-only models).

One thing though - you mentioned Word but not Excel. If you do much with Excel the faster i3 in the Dell would become a much bigger factor IMO as Excel is very good at maxing out all 4 cores on CPU-intensive operations like big VLOOKUPs...
Thanks a lot for all the specs on the HP.

And the two core thing? That's the same as duo-core, right? And I thought that was really ancient stuff processor-wise. Am I wrong? (I was really leaning toward the HP, but the two core kind of throws me.)

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I wouldn't buy a system with only 4GB that shares system memory for video.
And the HP in your link looks great, but I'm buying this for a friend and it's got to be new.
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I'd take a look at this desktop:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...080_em_1p_6_lm

It's an HP 6-core i5 for $339. No SSD but the Optane memory is supposed to provide some of the same benefit.

Edit> The i5-8400 in this system has a passmark score of 11500, far surpassing the other 2 systems.
And we have all VGA monitors, so I'm not concerned about DVI. But thanks for mentioning it.

Considering a new one. Is it any better, worse? 8GB i3 processor (8th generation and I guess 9th is out already), SATA hard drive.

https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron...pc&sr=1-1&th=1
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Old 11-26-2019, 03:40 PM   #212
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Avoid one that has a SATA HDD, and prefer one that has an SSD. Really, that's the single "upgrade" you can make to any system to improve performance.
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Old 11-26-2019, 06:36 PM   #213
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Avoid one that has a SATA HDD, and prefer one that has an SSD. Really, that's the single "upgrade" you can make to any system to improve performance.
Thanks. Yeah, I think I've been overcomplicating things. The two cores on the HP's processor is the only thing that stops me from going with that. The Dell for $329 is four cores and 8GB but the SATA drive. lol Yeah, I'm thinking too much. Thanks for the help.
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Avoid one that has a SATA HDD, and prefer one that has an SSD. Really, that's the single "upgrade" you can make to any system to improve performance.
CRussel is correct. An SSD drive is extremely fast compared to a SATA drive. It is like comparing a VW Beetle to a McLaren F1.
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Does anyone know if there will be an ebook sale with kindle , kobo or nook? I want to feed my ebook addiction
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There are (different) ebooks on sale at reduced prices every day.
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Old 11-26-2019, 10:28 PM   #217
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Thanks I'm going to go with the HP (with the SSD).
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Old 11-27-2019, 06:37 AM   #218
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Thanks I'm going to go with the HP (with the SSD).
This mini $320 HP desktop from Woot might also be worth a look:

https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp...9290_455702500

It's an older 4-core i5 with a 256GB SSD, and only $40 more for a 480GB SSD. No HDMI or DVI but I think you said you just use VGA?
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I've been watching the Kobo Clara on Walmart's website and the price dropped this morning to $99.96. No change on the Aura.
Looks like it's the same on Amazon.
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That's like getting two candy bars from a vending machine when you only paid for one. If I were you, I'd keep my eyes glued to the sky for the next couple of days in case Amazon unleashes its fleet of black drones on you trying to collect that extra credit
I've been keeping my eyes opened and the credits are multiplying! I've got $15 in credits now - two expire on December 9th and one on December 10th. 😎

Edit: This latest email says thank you for activating your Kindle E-reader. I just activated a Fire tablet. I wonder if I should wipe it and try again, because that's what I did today.

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B&H has Sandisk 8GB Sport MP3 players for $29.99, $20 off.
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B&H has Sandisk 8GB Sport MP3 players for $29.99, $20 off.
Here's a link: Clip Sport

This deal is good only until midnight tonight, Eastern Standard Time (US), so only about 5 hours from the time I post this.

This player does have a microSD slot for expansion beyond the built-in 8GB.
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Here's a link: Clip Sport

This deal is good only until midnight tonight, Eastern Standard Time (US), so only about 5 hours from the time I post this.

This player does have a microSD slot for expansion beyond the built-in 8GB.
SanDisk shows a list price of $30~$40.

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Norton 360 $10

https://www.amazon.com/NEW-Norton-36...3PKK1P1S5&th=1

5 device, 15 month - it goes into your Amazon software library until you're ready to install. I've been buying new keys for Norton Security this way for years, usually for $20 for 5 devices.

The catch this time is that it's auto-renew, so put a reminder in your calendar to cancel before it expires...
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My apologies if this has already been posted, no time to back read a zillion posts!

I was on Amazon.com today looking for Kindle Oasis 3 deals and the best one was $174.99 for the 8GB model. That is $75 off list. But be careful. As usual, Amazon actually lists multiple deals and some or much higher, some won't be delivered for a week or more, etc. So be sure to browse through all the current deals for an item to make sure you get the best one. Also, be careful on the Oasis as they have a similar price on the Oasis 2 which has been replaced by the Oasis 3. Amazon has definitely clearly marked them as the older model, but just be careful none the less.

Since they had 5 monthly payment deal offer, I went ahead and got an Oasis 3 8GB plus black cover. Merry Christmas to me! Hopefully it works out and is much better than the older blue tinted Paperwhites I tried out a few years ago.
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