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[Tony1988]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Spoiler Alert: Math coming up.

Excuse me, you are obviously showing your age or lack thereof. On average life expectancy, that takes into account the age everyone dies.
Example 1937 had a lower average life expectancy than 1936 or 1938.
The war years were also lower due to the age of the soldiers.
Say an infant and a 90 year old die. ALE: Just dropped to 45.
Just so you know last month, their were several 87 year olds that passed away. There was one 64 year old and I think one 20-something overdosed.
In October, we lost a 60+ year old. He had a history of living hard.

My own father died when he was 57. He would more than likely still be alive at 77 if he had taken care of himself.

My aunt died earlier this year at the age of 98.

Sorry but 70-80 is not a pipe dream. Now can I recommend you quit trying to dig yourself out of the age hole. You are just getting in deeper.

I have a long history of digging holes or as we called it, putting our foot in our mouth.

It's a pipe dream for a good portion. Didnt say majority or everyone. You are lucky you have a long lived family. Not everyone has great genetics. Add in bad health habits ....dead by 60...lol....

Anyhow...total average life expectancy in Us is apparently 78 years.....that's the average. So I am assuming just under half will die before and the rest live at or beyond....

[lightbulbjim]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

Anyhow...total average life expectancy in Us is apparently 78 years.....that's the average. So I am assuming just under half will die before and the rest live at or beyond....

Only if you’re talking about a median value. Even then, results may skew depending on whether the age is rounded to years or not.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

It's a pipe dream for a good portion. Didnt say majority or everyone. You are lucky you have a long lived family. Not everyone has great genetics. Add in bad health habits ....dead by 60...lol....

Anyhow...total average life expectancy in Us is apparently 78 years.....that's the average. So I am assuming just under half will die before and the rest live at or beyond....

I am not understanding your use of the words pipe dream.
It is not a pipe dream to live.
No one knows.
Heck 150 years ago, you would have been considered an old man.
For all I know 10 years from now, the average life expectancy might be 100.

Here is the thing, 20 years from now, I will be 70. My oldest daughter will be 53. My grandson will be legal to drink.
But you said in 20-30 years ebooks won't be usable. Is everyone in the world going to die in 30 years. Our age doesn't matter in your argument.

Hey kiddo that has had internet since elementary school, technology will continue to evolve so no one can say what digital books will look like then.

Rather like I am pretty sure my aunt was amazed at all the technology that came along in her lifetime.

[Tony1988]

Originally Posted by lightbulbjim

Only if you’re talking about a median value. Even then, results may skew depending on whether the age is rounded to years or not.

Correct. It's not an exact. Average is the median.

[Tony1988]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

I am not understanding your use of the words pipe dream.
It is not a pipe dream to live.
No one knows.
Heck 150 years ago, you would have been considered an old man.
For all I know 10 years from now, the average life expectancy might be 100.

Here is the thing, 20 years from now, I will be 70. My oldest daughter will be 53. My grandson will be legal to drink.
But you said in 20-30 years ebooks won't be usable. Is everyone in the world going to die in 30 years. Our age doesn't matter in your argument.

Hey kiddo that has had internet since elementary school, technology will continue to evolve so no one can say what digital books will look like then.

Rather like I am pretty sure my aunt was amazed at all the technology that came along in her lifetime.

Well I didn't say they wouldn't be usable. But not guaranteed. All my comments where based on previous comments. Just trying to put it in perspective that it is not really worth it to be worrying if ones ebooks will be around in 20-30 years...

[John F]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

Correct. It's not an exact. Average is the median.

A definition of "average":

a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.

[Cinisajoy]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

Well I didn't say they wouldn't be usable. But not guaranteed. All my comments where based on previous comments. Just trying to put it in perspective that it is not really worth it to be worrying if ones ebooks will be around in 20-30 years...

Then why didn't you just say that?
Do I think the files as I know them right now will be around in 30 years? Maybe, maybe not.
Do I think the contents of the files will be around in 30 years, probably.
I am pretty sure I have 2 or 3 different formats of digital ebooks just from first bought to now.
The thing is, it is much easier to change a digital format than to keep an analog copy in mint condition. I have a 105 year old book that looks way better than some done in the last few years.

If Amazon doesn't crash and burn, I am pretty sure I will still have access to my ebooks. If not, I should have backed them up.
Same idea with music or photos, do you think you will still have your digital photos to show your grandkids?

[Tony1988]

Originally Posted by Cinisajoy

Then why didn't you just say that?
Do I think the files as I know them right now will be around in 30 years? Maybe, maybe not.
Do I think the contents of the files will be around in 30 years, probably.
I am pretty sure I have 2 or 3 different formats of digital ebooks just from first bought to now.
The thing is, it is much easier to change a digital format than to keep an analog copy in mint condition. I have a 105 year old book that looks way better than some done in the last few years.

If Amazon doesn't crash and burn, I am pretty sure I will still have access to my ebooks. If not, I should have backed them up.
Same idea with music or photos, do you think you will still have your digital photos to show your grandkids?

I pretty much did say it....lol..

[Barbara1955]

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[Tony1988]

Originally Posted by John F

A definition of "average":

Right. I should have said Average is the median divided....not the median..sorry.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

Right. I should have said Average is the median divided....not the median..sorry.

Now I'm confused. What is a "median divided"?

[sjfan]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

Correct. It's not an exact. Average is the median.

Average can be many things (mean, mode, median, geometric average, etc), but most commonly when used without qualifier it is the mean. For life expectancy it's generally the mean, and the distribution is not normal so the mean and median are different.

It's definitely worth noting that life expectancy at birth differs from life expectancy for an adult, because there are a disproportionate number of childhood deaths; that's not as huge a factor as it was 100 years ago, but it still has an impact.

US life expectancy at birth is about 78 years, but a 30 year old on average will live to 82 years and a 60 year old can expect to live to about 85. That's partially eliminating childhood diseases and partially that you've avoided getting whacked by a car or similar for 30 years already so you've eliminated low-end risk.

[Tony1988]

Originally Posted by John F

Now I'm confused. What is a "median divided"?

Dude you just Googled it and quoted the definition. Hence the fact I didnt type it all out again and ended it with ..........

Next time I will put etc.etc...



the median, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number


Happy?

[John F]

Originally Posted by Tony1988

Dude you just Googled it and quoted the definition. Hence the fact I didnt type it all out again and ended it with ..........

Next time I will put etc.etc...



the median, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number


Happy?

Bro, that is called the mean.

[lightbulbjim]