The Technology Vent and Rant Thread - Page 113

Renate · 10-27-2023, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cromag

Hopefully tomorrow there will be another update that will fix things.

Maybe this is an unsubtle attempt to drive you to Windows 11.

I don't want to go to Windows 11.
Heck, I never wanted to leave Windows XP.

cromag · 10-27-2023, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renate

Maybe this is an unsubtle attempt to drive you to Windows 11.

I don't want to go to Windows 11.
Heck, I never wanted to leave Windows XP.

Wouldn't surprise me, but they keep telling me my computer doesn't meet the specs.

DNSB · 10-27-2023, 04:13 PM

Not much help but I updated my Windows 10 Edu VM and Thunderbird. When I ran Thunderbird after the update, it had no issues downloading around 400 messages ( I haven't run Thunderbird on the VM for a month or so). Thunderbird version is 115.4.1 (64-bit).

ownedbycats · 10-27-2023, 04:21 PM

This might help: right-click the inbox, Properties, Repair Folder.

If you don't have auto-compact on, the message indexes can get kind of bloated and messed up if you forget to compact every so often. Personally I use Xpunge instead of auto-compact, but its a matter of preference.

Sirtel · 10-27-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Renate

I don't want to go to Windows 11.

Me neither. Both my laptops are eligible, but I'll stay on Windows 10 as long as possible. I tried Windows 11 a year ago or so, and it lacked several features important to me. Perhaps it has improved since, but I'm not going to risk it.

OTOH, I upgraded to Windows 10 as soon as it was offered in 2015. It was better than Windows 8.1 I previously used. But Windows 11 is worse than Windows 10.

ownedbycats · 10-27-2023, 04:28 PM

Ew I just updated Thunderbird to 115 what did they do to it

binaryhermit · 10-27-2023, 04:35 PM

I think that's called "progress"

ownedbycats · 10-27-2023, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by binaryhermit

I think that's called "progress"

It's called 'an unnecessary UI overhaul that nobody asked for'

binaryhermit · 10-27-2023, 04:50 PM

You missed the tongue in cheek sarcasm that doesn't come in over text without being actively marked as sarcasm.

In your defense, I didn't mark the sarcasm.

binaryhermit · 10-27-2023, 04:52 PM

And on an unrelated note, I managed to crack my phone's screen protector again.

JSWolf · 10-27-2023, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sirtel

Me neither. Both my laptops are eligible, but I'll stay on Windows 10 as long as possible. I tried Windows 11 a year ago or so, and it lacked several features important to me. Perhaps it has improved since, but I'm not going to risk it.

OTOH, I upgraded to Windows 10 as soon as it was offered in 2015. It was better than Windows 8.1 I previously used. But Windows 11 is worse than Windows 10.

Actually, that's wrong. I have Windows 11 on my laptop and it is not worse then Windows 10. I also have Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 2 and my old desktop because they don't qualify for Windows 11 and I am fine with Windows 10 on them. Someday I do need to replace that old desktop and get a 2-in-1 to replace my Surface.

JSWolf · 10-27-2023, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ownedbycats

Ew I just updated Thunderbird to 115 what did they do to it

I got a forced update to 115 and it's not as bad as I've read But it's not as good as it was. Thing is, you do get used to it.

DNSB · 10-28-2023, 01:22 AM

Somehow it makes me feel better that I'm not alone in disliking some of the changes to Thunderbird's UI. To me, most of them have the feel of changes made for the sake of changes.

cromag · 10-28-2023, 02:07 AM

Yeah, I really disliked it at first, but now that I'm used to it I will admit that I find it ever so slightly easier to use the "Get Messages" icon and "New Message" box. It's very minor, and not everyone need agree with me.

Oh, by the way. I started up the computer, opened Thunderbird, and all messages downloaded without a hitch. Whatever happened between last night and tonight, I didn't do it.

Sirtel · 10-28-2023, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

Actually, that's wrong. I have Windows 11 on my laptop and it is not worse then Windows 10. I also have Windows 10 on my Surface Pro 2 and my old desktop because they don't qualify for Windows 11 and I am fine with Windows 10 on them. Someday I do need to replace that old desktop and get a 2-in-1 to replace my Surface.

It was certainly worse when I tried it last year.

10-27-2023, 04:21 PM	#1684
ownedbycats Custom User Title Posts: 11,065 Karma: 75568269 Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Canada Device: Kobo Libra H2O, formerly Aura HD	This might help: right-click the inbox, Properties, Repair Folder. If you don't have auto-compact on, the message indexes can get kind of bloated and messed up if you forget to compact every so often. Personally I use Xpunge instead of auto-compact, but its a matter of preference. Last edited by ownedbycats; 10-27-2023 at 04:27 PM.

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DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 46,784 Karma: 169712580 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Not much help but I updated my Windows 10 Edu VM and Thunderbird. When I ran Thunderbird after the update, it had no issues downloading around 400 messages ( I haven't run Thunderbird on the VM for a month or so). Thunderbird version is 115.4.1 (64-bit).

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binaryhermit Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,732 Karma: 20469902 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Lockport, IL Device: Kindle PW4, Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition	And on an unrelated note, I managed to crack my phone's screen protector again.

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DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 46,784 Karma: 169712580 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Somehow it makes me feel better that I'm not alone in disliking some of the changes to Thunderbird's UI. To me, most of them have the feel of changes made for the sake of changes.

10-28-2023, 02:07 AM	#1694
cromag Surfin the alpha waves ~~ Posts: 26,436 Karma: 459765791 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Jersey Device: Jetbook Lite & Mini, Nook STR, Kobo, Hanvon N516, Kindle 2, Androids	Yeah, I really disliked it at first, but now that I'm used to it I will admit that I find it ever so slightly easier to use the "Get Messages" icon and "New Message" box. It's very minor, and not everyone need agree with me. Oh, by the way. I started up the computer, opened Thunderbird, and all messages downloaded without a hitch. Whatever happened between last night and tonight, I didn't do it.

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