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I think that as more and more non-English SF gets written, the EAUL trope will go away. After all; ., it will look a little silly if Sunil Vishnwanath of the ISS Krishna is seen as speaking English. Mostr linkly, he'll be speaking Hindi or maybe, Interlingua.
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That isn't all that overwhelmingly common anymore:
Quite a few books from the 60's and 70's possited Esperanto as the universal language. Earlier, in the 40's and 50's, L. Sprague DeCamp had brazilian portugese. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viagens_Interplanetarias Heinlein had an english/russian/chinese patois as the lingua franca in THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS. Pournelle's Co-Dominion has English/russian. Asimov explicitly made it clear (in PEBBLE IN THE SKY) that his Empire's Galactic was *not* english. Quite a few modern stories assume spanish, chinese, or japanese roots to the universal language. Unless the future society is possited to be of anglophone descent (Weber's Graysons come to mind) most writers tend to leave it up to the reader these days. (Foreign rights have value, too. ![]() Last edited by fjtorres; 04-26-2012 at 06:04 PM. |
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Now that being said, if you replace your hero's point of origin with a national of China, Brazil or Argentina, I agree with you entirely. -- Bill |
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And English is the designated international language of science so why not SF.
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It may be that we will move on to another language someday, but retain use of English for scientific jargon and matters, much as Latin is retained and used today.
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Greek and latin were the language of the cultured long past the point where Rome mattered. |
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Although I haven't read a book in a long time where the universal language was explicitly described as being English. However, the very concept that there is *one* universal language language that everyone speaks is died-in-the-wool American Cultural Imperialism (tm) (Although the British aren't far behind us in that regard.) Why should there be one universal language - of whatever flavor. |
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![]() As for Latin, well, Rome never really did cease to matter. Yes, the Roman empire fell, but because the Catholic Church, Rome remained in large measure a focal point of Western Europe until at least the Protestant Reformation. -- Bill |
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As to why? Simple, language translation is inherently limited. Language shapes the way we think, so it is sometimes impossible to precisely translate an idea developed in one language into another (you end up with an approximation). Thus having a common language facilitates communication since those translation issues are lessened. (Also its inconvenient to need a translator every time you want to communicate). -- Bill |
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