Hacks kindlepid/kindlefix 0.2

[rhadin]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

On one hand Jeff says, DRM is options and on the other, he insists on DRM. Nobody yet knows his true stand on eBook DRM.

Yes, Jon, we do know his true position: DRM is required. If it weren't required, that is, if it were optional, Amazon's contracts would say something like "Amazon can provide DRM for your ebooks should you so choose. We discourage use of DRM, but will provide it if you want it." rather than making it mandatory, as the contract currently does.

[kevindorsey]

Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

This is so sad. The wiki is gone as well (I know that was in the request). That was how I learned to run programs from the command prompt, etc. This is so sad. I guess I got my kindle at just the right time. Only better time would have been never!

That's strong!

[TallMomof2]

Amazon does not DRM everything. Blogs are not DRMed but magazines and newspapers are (at least the ones I've tried). A few of my purchased books from Amazon came without DRM, not many but a few.

[BrianJ48]

Thanks for your guidance here. I had already Googled my issue with the kindlepid.py and the first four pages came back to this forum!

I appreciate your responses and now, having read about the Amazon DMCA notice, understand.

Bad news is - Amazon really doesn't get it - if I'm getting a legally usable copy from Library that I can read on up to 3 devices - they want to block using the Kindle. Obviously not protecting the copyright, but Amazon's revenue.

Good news is - a community of people such as yourselves, who spend considerable time helping others - less frustration and we get more from our devices. THANKS!

And to Amazon - I spend a lot at your site, much of it on electronics (my employees call me "Inspector Gadget"). I will be consciously moving my non-Kindle purchases to Barnes and Noble and brick and mortar stores - BestBuy here I come.

[JSWolf]

Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

This is so sad. The wiki is gone as well (I know that was in the request). That was how I learned to run programs from the command prompt, etc. This is so sad. I guess I got my kindle at just the right time. Only better time would have been never!

I hope someone has a copy of the wiki info so it can be put back for when Amazon sees they are wrong and gives in.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I hope someone has a copy of the wiki info so it can be put back for when Amazon sees they are wrong and gives in.

While I don't expect that to happen but f they do reverse themselves we will be able to restore that information.

BOb

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I hope someone has a copy of the wiki info so it can be put back for when Amazon sees they are wrong and gives in.

If someone does have it, why not post it anonymously on a book-sharing site like Feedbooks or Manybooks in all the formats you could desire. Format it as a short story and give it a catchy name like - Defeat of the Disasterous Machines from Castor Andromeda.

In fact I might do that myself. It'd be quite fun actually, writing a short that is actually (when deciphered) the instructions to defeat their silliness.

Must...find...cached...pages...of...wiki....

[daffy4u]

The wiki pages were not destroyed though they can no longer be viewed. They can be reactivated if and when the time comes.

[MaryAnn]

Originally Posted by scotty1024

Ooops forgot this part of your posting.

Name one library that can deliver a Kindle Application on iPhone PID'd Mobipocket file to the one and only iPhone for that PID? Name one distributor?

No one can.

Amazon has provided no means to deliver content to the application other than directly from their ebook store.

Did you see this posting over on TUAW?

http://www.tuaw.com/2009/03/09/iphon...-foil-pirates/

How many babies go hungry to "protect my freedom's" Igor? How many hungry babies can you handle crying in your dreams at night?

The entire planet is in economic free fall because a few people abused power and ignored responsibility. Now billions are suffering for it.

I can't fix the world economic collapse or people pirating iPhone apps to let babies go hungry but I can stand up here and say "DMCA circumvention tool". It's a key generator Igor, plain and simple. Dress it up anyway you want but it's intent is a key generator to facilitate breaking protected digital content.

The fact that it is easily circumvented isn't the point. The point is you aren't supposed to circumvent it. It's like the police tape around a crime scene. Anyone can lift the tape and go under it but once you do you can't claim "Uh, I'm not supposed to be in here? I was looking for the bathroom?"

Did breaking Fair Play get all my iTunes music set free Igor? No, it didn't. Getting the publishers to relent did. But as I said earlier: we ain't got leverage on the book publishers. Push 'em hard enough and they just sell only paper books. And the government men with guns will do their duty and protect the rights of the publishers to do just that.

The point is to change things so there is no need for DRM. I thought you understood... but I guess I was wrong.

I'm new to this scene and am not a pc geek at all. I am, however, I Kindle fanatic and have purchased 100's a books via Amazon. All nice and legal and not ripping the food out of the mouths of 3rd world babes. I also am getting progressively more pissed off because I've now spent hours on all the sites trying (unsuccessfully) use Igor's kindlepid.py (thanks anyway) to get my !@@%^ PID. Why? Because after purchasing many non-Amazon prc books and uploading them to my Kindle sans problem, I made the mistake of purchasing a book from E-Books that I'm DYING to read but that I can't. All because of the stupid PID issue.

It should not be this hard to read a book one has legally purchased. Especially since there was no mention on the site that they were locked against Kindles.

So let's not overstate the case about there being no need for a PID unless you're an evil moneygrubber.

[wallcraft]

Originally Posted by MaryAnn

I made the mistake of purchasing a book from E-Books that I'm DYING to read but that I can't. All because of the stupid PID issue.

You need the Kindle PID for lending library MOBI ebooks, and perhaps for the few ebook stores that offer OverDrive MOBI ebooks. However, for the typical DRMed MOBI ebook what you need is a PID from any device that MobiPocket supports. Often this is a Windows PC, but if you are on a Mac or under Linux then a smartphone is another option. Use the PID to get your MOBI ebook downloaded with a PID inside and then use mobidedrm to strip the DRM. The resulting DRM-free ebook will be usable on your Kindle and also with 3rd-party ebook readers (such as FBReader). You are probably already aware of the potential legal pitfalls, but in the US stripping DRM for personal use of ebooks you bought may be legal (a fair use) and even if illegal the proscription is unenforceable.

[Elphaba]

I bought a Kindle knowing that the source for those e-books is Amazon, that doesn’t mean however I want to leave myself vulnerable to possible format changes in the future which would render my library of e-books obsolete. I view my e-books as I do a physical book, something I should have to buy once and be able to access indefinitely.

It may be technically illegal but I am storing the books I bought from Amazon for my own sole usage as both DRM free mobi files and DRM free e-pub files since it has been suggested on these boards that e-pub is a better long term storage option.

I appreciate the work that has been done by Igorsk and the community in creating, testing and debugging the python script files that are available to anyone that knows how to do a simple online search.

[tolaat]

Anybody knows if either kindlepid.py or mobipocket 6.0 can show Kindle DX's PID?

[wallcraft]

Originally Posted by tolaat

Anybody knows if either kindlepid.py or mobipocket 6.0 can show Kindle DX's PID?

See KindlePID doesn't work with DX. Posts #21 and #25 are probably what you need to know to make it work.

[tolaat]

Thanks much, so I can get the DX with no worry of it being harder to deal with than a Kindle 2
I suppose I will have to try for myself to see if the PID gotten is also usable to deDRM an AZW I purchase so as to read it on the PC

[wallcraft]

Originally Posted by tolaat

suppose I will have to try for myself to see if the PID gotten is also usable to deDRM an AZW I purchase so as to read it on the PC

The PID does work with mobidedrm to turn DRM-ridden AZW into DRM-free MOBI.