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Old 05-28-2011, 08:55 AM   #136
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And yet when someone says they don't want to buy a touch screen you accuse them of being amazon cultists for not recognizing the obvious upgrade and you don't have to use it if you don't want to and etc. etc.

I think we can all agree at this point that Touch Screen = Better is a subjective issue. Back on topic.
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Don't be a complete ignoramus? You have already been incorrect on my not having children. And, now you are incorrect in what I've been saying all along. When on earth did I bash someone for not wanting to BUY ONE? I bashed them for claiming that it wasn't an upgrade. Whether you find use for it or not is up to you. But, objectively, it is an upgrade. Period. That is NOT debatable. The technology itself is an upgrade.

You might want to re-read all this, as reading comprehension is CLEARLY not your strong suit. Do NOT put words in my mouth. I don't appreciate it, especially when it's coming from someone of a clearly very limited intelligence such as yourself.

I've pointed out NUMEROUS times that the only subjective thing about it is whether or not you, personally, find use for it, however, the fact that it's there (versus NOT being there), is objectively an upgrade.

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I was so glad that they did that for the NC. It might just be me, but the Touch's interface looks very similar to the Color's and it wouldn't surprise me if it were.
It's not just you It does look pretty similiar which is good news because it's a very nice and well done UI
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I like everything about the new nook features wise, but the form factor for it is kind of ugly. Either way, I'm still very happy with my original nook so I'll stick with it for the time being. I'm just glad B&N is still updated the eink line. I was worried they might put all the resources into just the nook color.
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if the new nook has the same organization as the nook color then they will no longer be two libraries. They did an nice job of merging the two into one. and in it's last update it now included your sideloaded books to be added on the home pages as well.

they listened to that complain and acknowledged it.
You mean they finally stopped segregating the libraries? I had not heard this, but that's certainly an improvement! Be nice if they had pushed that out to the Nook 3G/WiFi and Nook WiFi. We were, after all, the folks who were clamoring for that all this time.

However, it still doesn't solve the organization problem. Even the online library gets darned cumbersome to find stuff in once one has hit 400+ books. (I haven't even owned the device a year yet!) Why the heck that isn't searchable I don't know!
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Whether you find use for it or not is up to you. But, objectively, it is an upgrade. Period. That is NOT debatable. The technology itself is an upgrade.

I think that is accurate. Now that we've gotten word definitions out of the way, the question becomes whether or not it's an improvement to the experience. Obviously that is not a matter for 'debate' so much as a discussion involving the expression of opinions.

At this point I gravitate towards the "no-touch" crowd, but my experience with touchscreen e-ink readers is limited so for now I can't make a solid judgement.
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I think that is accurate. Now that we've gotten word definitions out of the way, the question becomes whether or not it's an improvement to the experience. Obviously that is not a matter for 'debate' so much as a discussion involving the expression of opinions.

At this point I gravitate towards the "no-touch" crowd, but my experience with touchscreen e-ink readers is limited so for now I can't make a solid judgement.


Agreed, and EXTREMELY well put. If those on here that seem to be expressing their opinions as facts, were this well spoken, there would be no problems whatsoever.

As for the touch thing. You HAVE to try the Sony X50 series readers. Once you do, I'm fairly certain you would change your mind. The neat thing is that, depending on how you happen to be holding it, while you read, at any given time, sometimes it's easier to swipe the page to turn, and other times it's easier to press the button.

I absolutely promise you that there is NO fingerprint issue, no dust, nothing at all. I couldn't be happier, although, I fully recognize that my personal preference towards a touch screen is just that...a personal preference (even if it is a preference that is shared by the overwhelming majority). And, I would guess that those who prefer these readers without the touch screen likely have no/limited experience with the newer generation and are likely thinking that there is an issue with fingerprints, etc. You will be pleasantly surprised, as I feel that shortly (with the next gen Kindles), those who would prefer no touch screen at all, are going to be left with no options but to buy one with a touch screen, as all ereaders will likely have them, probably as soon as the next gen Kindles.
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Gosh, life must be simple when you don't have cats or children.

Remember that article a few years back where a guy realized his ear was totally clogged up with superglue because his kid was putting superglue in his ears while he slept?
I've got a 3 yr old and a 5 yr old and 3 cats. They can all be annoying, but none of it has anything to do with my ereaders, except that I frequently end up giving my Nook color to my 3 yr old to watch netflix or play some silly Android game. They make messes and trouble - but we are careful to keep our electronics away from the dinner table

My e-ink Nook stays zipped in its m-edge fabric case except when I'm reading with it. Kids & cats = not a problem.
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I like everything about the new nook features wise, but the form factor for it is kind of ugly. Either way, I'm still very happy with my original nook so I'll stick with it for the time being. I'm just glad B&N is still updated the eink line. I was worried they might put all the resources into just the nook color.
I agree with your form factor opinion. It is rather ugly and moving away from the concept that these should "look" like a book.

One of the main issues for me, concerning the Color was the touch screen and I am glad I waited as I have found it is even worse to use than I expected. I guess I am a Luddite in some aspects, but I will never consider a touch screen an improvement, just something different. I don't care for it at all on my Nook and I thought I would adapt but it just got more annoying. Ah well, good reason to get a spare Kindle if they seem to be going that way as well.
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I've got a 3 yr old and a 5 yr old and 3 cats. They can all be annoying, but none of it has anything to do with my ereaders, except that I frequently end up giving my Nook color to my 3 yr old to watch netflix or play some silly Android game. They make messes and trouble - but we are careful to keep our electronics away from the dinner table

My e-ink Nook stays zipped in its m-edge fabric case except when I'm reading with it. Kids & cats = not a problem.
Huh. Well, I guess I'm the only person whose cats walk on her eReader when she's reading.

I sit corrected.
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Oh, rest assured that when Amazon introduces it's Touch version later this year (or whenever it will happen, c'mon, we all know it will happen), the Kindlers will be thrilled and all of a sudden it's the best thing since sliced bread!


So True! As long as the device has the Kindle name it will be golden in there eyes.
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So True! As long as the device has the Kindle name it will be golden in their eyes.
Not true here. When that happens, I'll be ordering a spare KSO.
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So True! As long as the device has the Kindle name it will be golden in there eyes.
yup, I think I'm going to save all these kindler's post at how touch is horrible, etc etc and then match it up with ' Oh the kindle touch is Amazing, it's magical, it just works"
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You know, as I look at all the features they removed from the new Nook ( 3G, Web browser, MP3 player, landscape mode, text size adjustment) and I look at their perilous financial situation, I think I have this model figured out. They needed to make a cheaper stripped down model in order to look better to a perspective buyer (company buyer not Nook customer). The articles in the WSJ would support this and their discontinuance of the current 3G model makes sense if they are not profitable, especially if their ebook sales are not profitable enough to offset the loss of profits for the hardware. The thousands of "refurb" units they dumped on the market at cut rate prices also fits.

Just conjecture.

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Text size adjustment has not been removed...
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