The Best CLASSIC novel of ALL TIME! - Page 10

poohbear_nc · 10-14-2010, 07:14 PM

This thread is NOT a discussion of the Bible, or of religion. Please post in accordance with the spirit of the OP.

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Lady Fitzgerald · 10-14-2010, 08:04 PM

Well, excuse us!

jeffcobb · 10-14-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald

Well, excuse us!

That's actually a fairly common forum limitation because next to conversations (usually more like rants and flame-wars), religion is the fastest death to the healthiest of forums. I may not always agree with the moderators either but at the end of the day, its their place to run how they like; we are guests here.

Lady Fitzgerald · 10-14-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffcobb

That's actually a fairly common forum limitation because next to conversations (usually more like rants and flame-wars), religion is the fastest death to the healthiest of forums. I may not always agree with the moderators either but at the end of the day, its their place to run how they like; we are guests here.

Well, excuse me!

jeffcobb · 10-14-2010, 09:33 PM

Well, to be honest, since the rules are posted, there really *isn't* an excuse now is there?

Lady Fitzgerald · 10-14-2010, 09:58 PM

Well, lessee. The Bible is considered by many to be a Classic, even by those who do not believe in it. We were discussing translations of Classics, which the Bible is. The last post prior to Poobear's post was a tongue in cheek comment about why many people believe diversity of language came about, necessitating translations. While the last one was a stretch, all were related to the original topic.

Yes, religion can become a heated topic but why not wait until it does instead of banning the topic outright? Banning it outright is censorship and I have serious heartburn with that!

Williamlk · 10-15-2010, 04:13 PM

Ok, now back to classic novels.

I started this thread with DUNE which despite much debate I still believe to be a classic.

From another genre completely, I would have to go with Catcher In The Rye as another one of my top classic novel choices. hmmmm, wait a second, it might be a novella now I think about it. I have to go check now.

Ben Thornton · 10-15-2010, 06:50 PM

If classic means the sort of age that's out of copyright, and best means most enjoyable, then I'd vote for the Count of Monte Cristo, or the Woman in White and/or the Moonstone.

JSWolf · 10-15-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Yeah, we've been round and round this "what is a classic" in the Book club (among other threads)

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A classic is something that will stand the test of time or has already done so. Discworld is a classic series because it will stand the test of time.

JSWolf · 10-15-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

But the translation itself might be the classic, right? Makes me wonder if there are any books for which the translation is better than the original. King James bible?

No way... not neutral enough.

kennyc · 10-15-2010, 09:11 PM

You can claim that Jon, but it's not a classic until that test has been passed. (not predicted).

JSWolf · 10-15-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

LotR is a great story but let's face it, the writing is second rate.

But you have to admit (no matter what you think of the writing) that The Hobbit & Lord of the Rings are classics and always will be.

JSWolf · 10-15-2010, 09:17 PM

The following books by HG Wells are all classics.

The Time Machine
The Invisible Man
The War of the Worlds
The First Men in the Moon
The Food of the Gods
In the Days of the Comet
The Island of Doctor Moreau

crich70 · 10-15-2010, 09:35 PM

Actually I thought I was on topic. We were talking about Classic books and how well some are translated in particular. I just used the KJB as an example of how things don't always translate well from one language to another, something that another poster did with another book earlier in the topic. As I don't read any other language than English I used the only example I know of (of mistranslations) when making my point.

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Lady Fitzgerald · 10-15-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

No way... not neutral enough.

The King James was a horrible translation.

10-15-2010, 09:17 PM	#148
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,740 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The following books by HG Wells are all classics. The Time Machine The Invisible Man The War of the Worlds The First Men in the Moon The Food of the Gods In the Days of the Comet The Island of Doctor Moreau Last edited by JSWolf; 10-15-2010 at 09:27 PM.

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Lady Fitzgerald Wizard Posts: 2,013 Karma: 251649 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tempe, AZ, USA, Earth Device: JetBook Lite (away from home) + 1 spare, 32" TV (at home)	Well, lessee. The Bible is considered by many to be a Classic, even by those who do not believe in it. We were discussing translations of Classics, which the Bible is. The last post prior to Poobear's post was a tongue in cheek comment about why many people believe diversity of language came about, necessitating translations. While the last one was a stretch, all were related to the original topic. Yes, religion can become a heated topic but why not wait until it does instead of banning the topic outright? Banning it outright is censorship and I have serious heartburn with that!

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Williamlk Guru Posts: 624 Karma: 700001 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: New York Device: kindle	Ok, now back to classic novels. I started this thread with DUNE which despite much debate I still believe to be a classic. From another genre completely, I would have to go with Catcher In The Rye as another one of my top classic novel choices. hmmmm, wait a second, it might be a novella now I think about it. I have to go check now.

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Ben Thornton Guru Posts: 900 Karma: 779635 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Device: Kindle 3, iPad 2 (but not for e-books)	If classic means the sort of age that's out of copyright, and best means most enjoyable, then I'd vote for the Count of Monte Cristo, or the Woman in White and/or the Moonstone.

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kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,930 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	You can claim that Jon, but it's not a classic until that test has been passed. (not predicted).

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