New Graphite Kindle DX on July 7th! - Page 5

Kris777 · 07-01-2010, 03:35 PM

B&N dropped the price of its Nook, after it Amazon so when Sony will drop the price?

SamuraiXSendai · 07-01-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fernandokde

Does it has the new e-ink pearl screen? Both announce better constrast.

I read where this is the Pearl and saw a simulated picture. If that was accurate, it's a big improvement but remember this is just the internet. Let's see some confirmation first.

pilotbob · 07-01-2010, 04:19 PM

OK!... now this is more like it. I wonder if there are any firmware updates.

Also, seeing the K2i on Woot makes me think we might be seeing a Kindle 3 in the next few months too. Perhaps in time for the back to school sales?

While I want this.. the price is still a bit much for me.

BOb

Anarel · 07-01-2010, 04:46 PM

I read that it was the new Pearl screen;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtEdyjda6s

I think on the KDX Graphite page it stated 10:1 contrast.... and in this video the guy said that the new screen could reach 10:1 contrast.

And here:

E Ink details new display tech behind Kindle DX

E Ink has revealed the technical details behind its new e-paper display, which is used in the next-generation, just-announced Kindle DX. Dubbed Pearl, the new display tech increases the contrast ratio by 50 percent compared to the outgoing technology. The new e-paper uses an electrophoretic display and is based on current Vizplex designs.

The text is said to be crisper, like the difference between newspapers and paperback novels. This makes the screen and text much more visible in the outdoors as well, E Ink said. Images can be more clearly reproduced thanks to 16 gray levels.

E Ink Pearl also has improved energy efficiency, though exactly how much more efficient it is hasn't been divulged.

http://www.electronista.com/articles...new.kindle.dx/

PaulGuy · 07-01-2010, 05:48 PM

Pre-Ordered this morning. My current DX goes on Ebay tonight. Can't wait to see the screen.

fafaforza · 07-01-2010, 06:07 PM

I thought that the new displays wouldn't make their way into consumer products until well into 2011? They were announced less than a month ago. I wonder if someone has their facts wrong.

I'd like to see side by side pics, including the PRS-505.

Solicitous · 07-01-2010, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarel

I read that it was the new Pearl screen;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtEdyjda6s

I think on the KDX Graphite page it stated 10:1 contrast.... and in this video the guy said that the new screen could reach 10:1 contrast.

And here:

E Ink details new display tech behind Kindle DX

E Ink has revealed the technical details behind its new e-paper display, which is used in the next-generation, just-announced Kindle DX. Dubbed Pearl, the new display tech increases the contrast ratio by 50 percent compared to the outgoing technology. The new e-paper uses an electrophoretic display and is based on current Vizplex designs.

The text is said to be crisper, like the difference between newspapers and paperback novels. This makes the screen and text much more visible in the outdoors as well, E Ink said. Images can be more clearly reproduced thanks to 16 gray levels.

E Ink Pearl also has improved energy efficiency, though exactly how much more efficient it is hasn't been divulged.

http://www.electronista.com/articles...new.kindle.dx/

Looking at that youtube video the newspaper they loaded had animation on it. If Amazon are using this screen in the DX (and conceivably in the next Kindle 3? ) then we might see animation in ebooks as was articled about during the week (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/28/a...-to-iphone-ip/) and the thread https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88645

flowoeB · 07-02-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I've just checked, and it can be ordered in the UK.

could you tell me how to? when i click on 'living outside USA' I get the message that I only can buy the white one - even when selecting UK for delivery...

tomsem · 07-02-2010, 12:26 PM

Well, to me this is just a cosmetic upgrade. The better screen and lower price is nice, but there aren't any functional or ergonomic improvements. PDF support is still not what it should be (no annotation, no PDF link support for navigation), CPU seems to be the same speed, still no left side buttons, same keyboard.

And it seems to portend the same will be true of the K2 replacement. It's just going to have a slightly improved screen? a year and a half after they came out with this design? Not even any software changes? I would hope for more than that...

pilotbob · 07-02-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomsem

Well, to me this is just a cosmetic upgrade. The better screen and lower price is nice, but there aren't any functional or ergonomic improvements.

I disagree... a new screen is a functional improvement. But, you are right in that there are no new features to this... so it seems.

However, the main reason most people moved from a PRS-500 to a PRS-505 was for the better screen which was the main functional difference they wanted... the new button locations not so much why people upgraded.

BOb

jj2me · 07-02-2010, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

I disagree... a new screen is a functional improvement. But, you are right in that there are no new features to this... so it seems.

However, the main reason most people moved from a PRS-500 to a PRS-505 was for the better screen which was the main functional difference they wanted... the new button locations not so much why people upgraded.

BOb

I agree, to the point where I think the market in used, current-gen Vizplex devices (e.g., Sony 300, 505, Kindle) will go south fairly quickly (especially with the inevitable price drops as technology marches forward). Why buy a reader that's not bright, where you need more lumens of ambient light to read at a particular font size? It's an advantage to see more on the page (ref. DX users).

I compared the DX and DX Graphite Amazon pics, and find no screen differences, making me think they didn't really photograph the new screens, just Photoshopped the graphite border. Maybe they even deliberately withheld showing the new whiter-background screens.

joblack · 07-02-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoffC

oh !

you mean an iPad .... :snickers:

Harhar - that was great.

Man the new Kindle DX would be something great if it would support epub, chm and djvus ...

...

markbot · 07-02-2010, 11:17 PM

i wonder if they purposefully make the keyboard crappy so that people don't over use the free internet.

m-reader · 07-03-2010, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flowoeB

could you tell me how to? when i click on 'living outside USA' I get the message that I only can buy the white one - even when selecting UK for delivery...

Same here. They redirect you to order the old white DX.

m-reader · 07-03-2010, 05:44 AM

I love the size, I love the screen. I would buy one of this in a flash for my technical documentation.
The trouble is that most of this stuff is PDF and I would really need ToC support. Is it true it's not supported on DX?

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07-01-2010, 03:35 PM	#61
Kris777 Banned Posts: 1,767 Karma: 2520493 Join Date: Oct 2008 Device: Nexus 7, jetBook-Lite, jetBook mini, Toshiba Thrive, JETBOOK COLOR	B&N dropped the price of its Nook, after it Amazon so when Sony will drop the price?

07-01-2010, 04:19 PM	#63
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	OK!... now this is more like it. I wonder if there are any firmware updates. Also, seeing the K2i on Woot makes me think we might be seeing a Kindle 3 in the next few months too. Perhaps in time for the back to school sales? While I want this.. the price is still a bit much for me. BOb

07-01-2010, 04:46 PM	#64
Anarel Evangelist Posts: 424 Karma: 61399 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: K1, GKDX, K3	I read that it was the new Pearl screen; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxtEdyjda6s I think on the KDX Graphite page it stated 10:1 contrast.... and in this video the guy said that the new screen could reach 10:1 contrast. And here: E Ink details new display tech behind Kindle DX E Ink has revealed the technical details behind its new e-paper display, which is used in the next-generation, just-announced Kindle DX. Dubbed Pearl, the new display tech increases the contrast ratio by 50 percent compared to the outgoing technology. The new e-paper uses an electrophoretic display and is based on current Vizplex designs. The text is said to be crisper, like the difference between newspapers and paperback novels. This makes the screen and text much more visible in the outdoors as well, E Ink said. Images can be more clearly reproduced thanks to 16 gray levels. E Ink Pearl also has improved energy efficiency, though exactly how much more efficient it is hasn't been divulged. http://www.electronista.com/articles...new.kindle.dx/

07-01-2010, 05:48 PM	#65
PaulGuy Zealot Posts: 112 Karma: 520 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Connecticut Device: GDX, K2i, K3 3G, nook wi-fi	Pre-Ordered this morning. My current DX goes on Ebay tonight. Can't wait to see the screen.

07-01-2010, 06:07 PM	#66
fafaforza Zealot Posts: 140 Karma: 26780 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Brooklyn, NY Device: Aura ONE	I thought that the new displays wouldn't make their way into consumer products until well into 2011? They were announced less than a month ago. I wonder if someone has their facts wrong. I'd like to see side by side pics, including the PRS-505.

07-02-2010, 12:26 PM	#69
tomsem Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,905 Karma: 27013865 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Device: iPhone 15PM, Kindle Scribe, iPad mini 6, PocketBook InkPad Color 3	Well, to me this is just a cosmetic upgrade. The better screen and lower price is nice, but there aren't any functional or ergonomic improvements. PDF support is still not what it should be (no annotation, no PDF link support for navigation), CPU seems to be the same speed, still no left side buttons, same keyboard. And it seems to portend the same will be true of the K2 replacement. It's just going to have a slightly improved screen? a year and a half after they came out with this design? Not even any software changes? I would hope for more than that...

07-02-2010, 11:17 PM	#73
markbot Guru Posts: 612 Karma: 7511929 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: New York, NY Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite 2	i wonder if they purposefully make the keyboard crappy so that people don't over use the free internet.

07-03-2010, 05:44 AM	#75
m-reader Guru Posts: 785 Karma: 100000 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Sony PRS-300. PRS-650, PRS-900, iPad2, Iconia A500, Irex Iliad (sold)	I love the size, I love the screen. I would buy one of this in a flash for my technical documentation. The trouble is that most of this stuff is PDF and I would really need ToC support. Is it true it's not supported on DX?