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Alisa · 09-17-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeF74

Related to the Page X of Y display, this is more of a "it would be nice if" request than any kind of specific Cybook criticism...

It would be nice to see how many pages are left in the current chapter. With a real book, I frequently flip ahead to see how many pages are left in the current chapter. Just to see whether it is worthwhile to push through to the next chapter break, or get back to real life whether that means going to sleep or saying to the wife "I'll get to that in a second, I've just got a few pages left".

I strongly second this idea. I'm not "forcing" myself to finish a book or anything like that, but I when I stop reading, I like to break at the end of a chapter. It makes the book flow better for me. While I would love to have the leisure of being able to read entire books in one sitting, I rarely get the opportunity.

I don't think I'd particularly care how many total pages are left but then that's something I always have a feel for with a paper book since I can see the physical thickness of the remaining pages. Maybe I would miss it if it were gone but I'm guessing it'll be less important to me than chapter progress. I suppose that could be a nifty user-settable preference, though. It seems an easy thing to implement for those that want it and folks that want that extra line on the screen could turn it off.

rahlquist · 09-17-2007, 02:07 PM

You know what would be cool and I don't know enough about the various ebook formats to even know if its possible.

Use whitespace for battery meeter display. So when you are aren't the first page of a new chapter it displays the battery meter in the customary whitespace at the top so that it isn't constantly eating up display.

Or shared real estate for both. On page one of a chapter you know you have the whole chapter to go so the status bar shows batter status, on any other page of the chapter it shows relative progress for that chapter.

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 02:17 PM

All of y'all.

These are good ideas as far as *I'm* concerned. And it's great knowing that Bookeen monitors them so that they have a user-inspired source of improvements. One thing, there's supposed to be a means for turning off the header and footer in the ebooks, I just haven't found it yet.

And I like the idea of being able to choose between a page number, page number of total pages, progress bar and any of the above with battery-level for the footer. Title? Well the header with the title isn't one that I really need, but it's nice to know I can choose it. I'd go with a separate - smaller font - title to the left and author to the right header if I could have it that way.

Derek

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Originally Posted by rahlquist

You know what would be cool and I don't know enough about the various ebook formats to even know if its possible.

Use whitespace for battery meeter display. So when you are aren't the first page of a new chapter it displays the battery meter in the customary whitespace at the top so that it isn't constantly eating up display.

Or shared real estate for both. On page one of a chapter you know you have the whole chapter to go so the status bar shows batter status, on any other page of the chapter it shows relative progress for that chapter.

Adam B. · 09-17-2007, 03:40 PM

Is battery life comperable to the Sony?

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 04:21 PM

Adam,

It took me about three and a half days to drop from 100% to 60% - during which time I had the device on 24/7 except for about a two-hour break on the second day.

Oh yeah... There's a removable lid over the battery compartment. This glossy black case is *NOT* the most conducive to close-ups using the built-in, pop-up flash and while my light-tent has arrived, the display racks and the daylight-balanced CFL photofloods haven't. As soon as they do, I'll be taking other photos, including one with the battery cover removed.

Derek

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Originally Posted by Adam B.

Is battery life comperable to the Sony?

guguy · 09-17-2007, 04:22 PM

Officially 8000 page turn.

MikeF74 · 09-17-2007, 04:25 PM

Derek,

Have a look at the following page: http://www.nuutbook.com/goods/goods_...ut%20(np-601w)

I can't be 100% certain, but I think this device is based off the same reference design as the Cybook Gen3 (since the physical dimensions are identical, and the buttons positions are the same).

Have a look at how it attaches to the cover. Does it look like the Gen3 might attach in the same fashion?

MikeF74 · 09-17-2007, 04:30 PM

Also interesting if you read that page, the device contains a 250MHz CPU, but is underclocked to 200MHz.

CommanderROR · 09-17-2007, 04:46 PM

The Nuut is a clone of the STAReBOOK. It has the same buttons and everything. Internal workings might be different, but I doubt it.
It should be similar to the Cybook, but since the Cy has a slightly different casing I'm not sure just HOW similar.

wallcraft · 09-17-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

It took me about three and a half days to drop from 100% to 60% - during which time I had the device on 24/7 except for about a two-hour break on the second day.

This is more consistent with CommanderROR's STAReBOOK experience (post #75) "run out of juice after about a week of lying around doing nothing (and about the same with regular reading)", than 8,000 page turns.

CommanderROR · 09-17-2007, 05:02 PM

8000 pageturns is correct anyway...but don't expect to get to READ 8000 pages...

It's a trick...you can do about 1pps (page per second) and then you'll have your 8000 in 8000 seconds which is rougly 2.5 hours...
But if it takes you about 3 minutes to read one page, then you would have the device running for 3x8000 minutes which is 400 hours and more than the device can do on "low-power-mode" even without the additional drain of prechaching and pageturning.
Apart from the Sony Reader and the Hanlins nobody seems to have grasped the real meaning of eink for power-saving.

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 05:38 PM

MikeF74,

It sure *DOES*!!! Now if I could only figure out how to order a black softcover! Anybody speak Korean?

Derek

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeF74

Derek,

Have a look at the following page: http://www.nuutbook.com/goods/goods_...ut%20(np-601w)

I can't be 100% certain, but I think this device is based off the same reference design as the Cybook Gen3 (since the physical dimensions are identical, and the buttons positions are the same).

Have a look at how it attaches to the cover. Does it look like the Gen3 might attach in the same fashion?

penty · 09-17-2007, 06:46 PM

The big problem with a sleep mode is how long does it take the device to wake up and be able to do something. If it has a fast power on cycle and that takes you right back to where you left off, why even have a sleep mode?

delphidb96 · 09-17-2007, 06:55 PM

Of course, if it's turn off/ turn on cycle takes you back to the main menu, it could be somewhat frustrating. In such a case, having a sleep/suspend mode which takes you back directly to where you were reading would be a nice feature - one which, in version 0.91 (beta) I sorely miss.

Derek

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Originally Posted by penty

The big problem with a sleep mode is how long does it take the device to wake up and be able to do something. If it has a fast power on cycle and that takes you right back to where you left off, why even have a sleep mode?

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 07:46 PM

I rather like turning the Sony off and then back on tot he page it was on when I suspended it. I do now have a proper off for times if I am not going to be using it for some time.

09-17-2007, 04:25 PM	#82
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	Derek, Have a look at the following page: http://www.nuutbook.com/goods/goods_...ut%20(np-601w) I can't be 100% certain, but I think this device is based off the same reference design as the Cybook Gen3 (since the physical dimensions are identical, and the buttons positions are the same). Have a look at how it attaches to the cover. Does it look like the Gen3 might attach in the same fashion? Last edited by MikeF74; 09-17-2007 at 04:40 PM.

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09-17-2007, 02:07 PM	#77
rahlquist Enthusiast Posts: 38 Karma: 60 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: Nook Color (ICS)	You know what would be cool and I don't know enough about the various ebook formats to even know if its possible. Use whitespace for battery meeter display. So when you are aren't the first page of a new chapter it displays the battery meter in the customary whitespace at the top so that it isn't constantly eating up display. Or shared real estate for both. On page one of a chapter you know you have the whole chapter to go so the status bar shows batter status, on any other page of the chapter it shows relative progress for that chapter.

09-17-2007, 03:40 PM	#79
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	Is battery life comperable to the Sony?

09-17-2007, 04:22 PM	#81
guguy Groupie Posts: 191 Karma: 15 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clermont-Ferrand/Paris, France Device: PRS-505	Officially 8000 page turn.

09-17-2007, 04:30 PM	#83
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	Also interesting if you read that page, the device contains a 250MHz CPU, but is underclocked to 200MHz.

09-17-2007, 04:46 PM	#84
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	The Nuut is a clone of the STAReBOOK. It has the same buttons and everything. Internal workings might be different, but I doubt it. It should be similar to the Cybook, but since the Cy has a slightly different casing I'm not sure just HOW similar.

09-17-2007, 05:02 PM	#86
CommanderROR eink fanatic Posts: 2,022 Karma: 4924 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany Device: STAReBOOK, iRex Iliad, Sony 505, Kindle 2	8000 pageturns is correct anyway...but don't expect to get to READ 8000 pages... It's a trick...you can do about 1pps (page per second) and then you'll have your 8000 in 8000 seconds which is rougly 2.5 hours... But if it takes you about 3 minutes to read one page, then you would have the device running for 3x8000 minutes which is 400 hours and more than the device can do on "low-power-mode" even without the additional drain of prechaching and pageturning. Apart from the Sony Reader and the Hanlins nobody seems to have grasped the real meaning of eink for power-saving.

09-17-2007, 06:46 PM	#88
penty Connoisseur Posts: 70 Karma: 367 Join Date: Sep 2007 Device: CyBook Gen3	The big problem with a sleep mode is how long does it take the device to wake up and be able to do something. If it has a fast power on cycle and that takes you right back to where you left off, why even have a sleep mode?

09-17-2007, 07:46 PM	#90
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,798 Karma: 146391129 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	I rather like turning the Sony off and then back on tot he page it was on when I suspended it. I do now have a proper off for times if I am not going to be using it for some time.