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Old 06-23-2010, 06:27 AM   #511
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would that account for their virtual success in South Africa ?
Ooooooh! That's bad sir Geoff.
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.. indeed, philosophically speaking, it was a victory!
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.. indeed, philosophically speaking, it was a victory!
Ah, I see. Suddenly it all makes sense
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Is making sense, necessary ?
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:33 AM   #515
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Good question. It's certainly satisfying. But not always necessary, no. Especially when it comes to football?
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football .... now there's a question for the agile minds to consider .... no doubt come 5 this evening we'll be looking at E in the same vein of thought as F.
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Sorry about this, but somebody had to do it.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:04 AM   #518
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would you kindly come and clean my screen and keyboard ......
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Just wipe it with a cat.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:25 PM   #521
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Oh, right....fergot about that.

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Old 06-24-2010, 04:30 AM   #522
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Is there more to truth, than just facts ?
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Old 06-24-2010, 07:34 AM   #523
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Yes. I think of facts as measurements, which are subject to error and judgment etc. but they do fit into a large context, a larger system, if you will... just like the temperature in your house is a measurement, but it is measured and is part of your airconditioning or heating system.....

"Facts" are things that play into larger systems like society, science, history, etc...
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Just thought I'd like to draw attention to an excellent work on Heraclitus - in my eyes the source of all modern and postmodern philosophy either by contradiction or by development. Heraclite - Fragments -Marcel Conche. Unfortunately it is not available at the moment as an ebook but will be when Gallimard get round to digitalising it.
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Just thought I'd like to draw attention to an excellent work on Heraclitus - in my eyes the source of all modern and postmodern philosophy either by contradiction or by development. Heraclite - Fragments -Marcel Conche. Unfortunately it is not available at the moment as an ebook but will be when Gallimard get round to digitalising it.
Give us a hollar when it become available.

The Fragments may not currently be available in ebook form, but as I'm sure Heraclitus would say is he were still around to say it, that's bound to change.
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