The Vent and Rant Thread - Page 701

yvanleterrible · 06-22-2010, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Verencat

Hé-hé!

Two pages about taxes just made me really, really sleepy!

Of course, beer doesn't have anything to do with it...

Verencat · 06-22-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Of course, beer doesn't have anything to do with it...

Do you know me at all?

WT Sharpe · 06-22-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SneakySnake

...I know this probably doesn't help. So here have a puppy.....

SneakySnake, you're priceless! Thanks for that! That's way better than any old financial software recommendation ever could be!

JLYates · 06-23-2010, 12:46 PM

RANTING

Here is my rant. Really two rants. Hubby took our son, 26, to the hospital emergency room as he was really sick, we thought it was from his migraine. The put him in ICU, it seems that he has diabetes type 1. They kept him there for three days in ICU, then sent him to another room for two more days making sure his insulin levels were stable, getting the right dosage he needed. Social workers, diabetes counselors, and dietitans came and talked to him and us about what needed to be done. Unfortunately, the hopsital is not in our home state (there is no local hospital) so we can't go to those agencies in that state for help.

The first rant aspect, I called Human services to see what help we could get for his meds -- he has no insurance. What do they tell me? Naturally, we have to come in and fill out some forms, get some papers from the doctors and then apply; it will probably take at least six months. SIX MONTHS! I told her he would be dead by then, he has to have his insulin NOW. Their response, "I'm sorry, but that is all we can do, bring us the information we need and we will send in the application for a medical card". I asked them, don't they know of any places where we can get his insulin while we wait to hear about a medical card? "No, sorry, call his doctor and see if they can help you".

The compassion, the caring, the empathy, does it exist within social service? Of course not, the ones who are supposed to care don't give a DAMN. They don't even have the decency to have a list of places I can contact.

The ones who are helping out? The hospital has give us a two week supply of insulin for him. I called the doctor's office for an appointment and they told us that the pharmacitual companies give them insulin for those who can't afford it. They told us to contact these companies to request assistance for free or discounted medication. Meanwhile, they can provide some insulin week at a time for him as we look for some help.

We will have to pay for the test strips, the syringes, alcohol pads and lancets. That will be at least a $100 a month. The insulin is going to be at least $400 a month.

As for my son getting a job to help with expenses, he was looking for one but here is rant two. Wonderful WalMart gave him the wrong meds and now he is suffering neurological problems; he is not allowed to drive a car, has to use a cane to walk and other side effects from not getting the right medication. It wasn't what he was given so much as not getting the right medication. He had a severe withdrawl that the neurologist said caused damage, it will over time heal, but never totally. He was looking for a part time job to help with college expenses, he was taking premed classes. He has been tested three times on IQ tests, two times over 130 and one time over 145.

His life is ruined, he was planning on become a psychiarist; he was able to read a book and retain most of it. Not photographic, just GREAT memory. I was doing (struggling with) my algbra homework (I am in college) and he looked at the problems, examples and even though he had never taken an algreba class, he was telling me what to do, and he was right on everyone of them. We were told when he was being tested on his IQ that if he wanted he could go to NASA, he had a unique way of seeing things that would be great in the science and research field. All of that has been taken from him, first by Walmart and now the diabetes.

Okay, rant is over, sometimes it is overwhelming and I just need to vent.

Janette

poohbear_nc · 06-23-2010, 01:17 PM

Janette - So sorry to read about your troubles. One thought - you might want to contact your Congressman/woman's office for help in getting your son medical aid sooner than 6 months. In these troubled political times, sometimes congress people will really help their constituents - and can cut through red tape for you.

badgoodDeb · 06-23-2010, 01:38 PM

It is also true that the companies that MAKE these drugs sometimes provide them when they are needed. DO contact them.

yvanleterrible · 06-23-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by poohbear_nc

Janette - So sorry to read about your troubles. One thought - you might want to contact your Congressman/woman's office for help in getting your son medical aid sooner than 6 months. In these troubled political times, sometimes congress people will really help their constituents - and can cut through red tape for you.

What's the percentage of uninsured US citizenship?

poohbear_nc · 06-23-2010, 02:03 PM

And - if your local TV or radio station has a "trouble shooters" or "help" segment on their news program - try them too.

kennyc · 06-23-2010, 03:55 PM

And not to jump on the "sue the bastards" bandwagon, but if Walmart gave him the wrong medicine that permanently damaged him, they are liable.

Roger Parkinson · 06-23-2010, 04:10 PM

Gosh that must be tough. So avoidable, so devastating. I don't have any advice but I do hope things improve for you.

JLYates · 06-23-2010, 05:09 PM

We have contacted a lawyer, hopefully he can help with the suit. Surprising, or maybe not, many of the lawyers (even a big name from NY that we called) refused to take the case as soon as we said WalMart.

The one we are talking to now has no fear of WalMart, the only problem is that he has no knowledge of neurological problems. You can not diagnosis neurological problems with a simple pen and paper test. It is like dx'ing ADHD, Alzheimers or other neurological disorders. You ask questions, watch behaviors and make a judgment call based on knowledge, experience and training. I learned that in my college classes. But the lawyer doesn't seem to understand that, so I may see if I can find one who has some background in such cases.

On the diabetes, I had considered calling my congressman (not the first time, LOL, I siced one on a military hospital) but wasn't sure if they could help. I have some numbers to call on various places, my main frustration is with the Human Services who should do all they can to help and just don't want to be bothered. I took some classes with some from that agency (in grad classes) and their attitude toward those who they were supposed to help was appalling. I figured I would get no help from them, but had to give it a try.

Thanks for the support and info. And listening to my venting.

Janette

kennyc · 06-23-2010, 05:17 PM

Well, I'm sure Walmart has crushed many a lawyer with their big bucks! Good Luck!

recluse · 06-23-2010, 05:49 PM

I'm behind you 100%, Janette.
I won't shop at WalMart.
I got my family to stop.
And we are spreading the word.
You take them on.
Tell everyone. Go to the media.
They have an ugly track record of steamrolling over people.
This goes beyond anything acceptable.
Good luck. My prayers are with you and your family.

nomesque · 06-23-2010, 08:22 PM

Feeling like CRAP, but I have far too much work to do...

I just really, really want to sleep. Stupid heart.

Someday I'll earn enough from writing fiction to ditch the whole day job thing. That's the only hope keeping me sane right now.

(and yes, this is mostly despair-of-the-moment talking - things could be a lot worse, but they feel incredibly crap right now)

SneakySnake · 06-23-2010, 08:22 PM

My heart goes out to you Janette. Chin up, I hope you find the strength to fight the coming battles. Sending you some muntavibes.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.
(munta {u as in push} = strength/power)

06-23-2010, 12:46 PM	#10504
JLYates Connoisseur Posts: 71 Karma: 44 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Sony 900BC	RANTING Here is my rant. Really two rants. Hubby took our son, 26, to the hospital emergency room as he was really sick, we thought it was from his migraine. The put him in ICU, it seems that he has diabetes type 1. They kept him there for three days in ICU, then sent him to another room for two more days making sure his insulin levels were stable, getting the right dosage he needed. Social workers, diabetes counselors, and dietitans came and talked to him and us about what needed to be done. Unfortunately, the hopsital is not in our home state (there is no local hospital) so we can't go to those agencies in that state for help. The first rant aspect, I called Human services to see what help we could get for his meds -- he has no insurance. What do they tell me? Naturally, we have to come in and fill out some forms, get some papers from the doctors and then apply; it will probably take at least six months. SIX MONTHS! I told her he would be dead by then, he has to have his insulin NOW. Their response, "I'm sorry, but that is all we can do, bring us the information we need and we will send in the application for a medical card". I asked them, don't they know of any places where we can get his insulin while we wait to hear about a medical card? "No, sorry, call his doctor and see if they can help you". The compassion, the caring, the empathy, does it exist within social service? Of course not, the ones who are supposed to care don't give a DAMN. They don't even have the decency to have a list of places I can contact. The ones who are helping out? The hospital has give us a two week supply of insulin for him. I called the doctor's office for an appointment and they told us that the pharmacitual companies give them insulin for those who can't afford it. They told us to contact these companies to request assistance for free or discounted medication. Meanwhile, they can provide some insulin week at a time for him as we look for some help. We will have to pay for the test strips, the syringes, alcohol pads and lancets. That will be at least a $100 a month. The insulin is going to be at least $400 a month. As for my son getting a job to help with expenses, he was looking for one but here is rant two. Wonderful WalMart gave him the wrong meds and now he is suffering neurological problems; he is not allowed to drive a car, has to use a cane to walk and other side effects from not getting the right medication. It wasn't what he was given so much as not getting the right medication. He had a severe withdrawl that the neurologist said caused damage, it will over time heal, but never totally. He was looking for a part time job to help with college expenses, he was taking premed classes. He has been tested three times on IQ tests, two times over 130 and one time over 145. His life is ruined, he was planning on become a psychiarist; he was able to read a book and retain most of it. Not photographic, just GREAT memory. I was doing (struggling with) my algbra homework (I am in college) and he looked at the problems, examples and even though he had never taken an algreba class, he was telling me what to do, and he was right on everyone of them. We were told when he was being tested on his IQ that if he wanted he could go to NASA, he had a unique way of seeing things that would be great in the science and research field. All of that has been taken from him, first by Walmart and now the diabetes. Okay, rant is over, sometimes it is overwhelming and I just need to vent. Janette Last edited by JLYates; 06-23-2010 at 01:00 PM.

06-23-2010, 05:09 PM	#10511
JLYates Connoisseur Posts: 71 Karma: 44 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Sony 900BC	We have contacted a lawyer, hopefully he can help with the suit. Surprising, or maybe not, many of the lawyers (even a big name from NY that we called) refused to take the case as soon as we said WalMart. The one we are talking to now has no fear of WalMart, the only problem is that he has no knowledge of neurological problems. You can not diagnosis neurological problems with a simple pen and paper test. It is like dx'ing ADHD, Alzheimers or other neurological disorders. You ask questions, watch behaviors and make a judgment call based on knowledge, experience and training. I learned that in my college classes. But the lawyer doesn't seem to understand that, so I may see if I can find one who has some background in such cases. On the diabetes, I had considered calling my congressman (not the first time, LOL, I siced one on a military hospital) but wasn't sure if they could help. I have some numbers to call on various places, my main frustration is with the Human Services who should do all they can to help and just don't want to be bothered. I took some classes with some from that agency (in grad classes) and their attitude toward those who they were supposed to help was appalling. I figured I would get no help from them, but had to give it a try. Thanks for the support and info. And listening to my venting. Janette Last edited by JLYates; 06-23-2010 at 05:19 PM.

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06-23-2010, 01:17 PM	#10505
poohbear_nc Bah! Humbug! Posts: 63,855 Karma: 135242149 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Durham, NC Device: Every Kindle Ever Made & To Be Made!	Janette - So sorry to read about your troubles. One thought - you might want to contact your Congressman/woman's office for help in getting your son medical aid sooner than 6 months. In these troubled political times, sometimes congress people will really help their constituents - and can cut through red tape for you.

06-23-2010, 01:38 PM	#10506
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,560 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	It is also true that the companies that MAKE these drugs sometimes provide them when they are needed. DO contact them.

06-23-2010, 02:03 PM	#10508
poohbear_nc Bah! Humbug! Posts: 63,855 Karma: 135242149 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Durham, NC Device: Every Kindle Ever Made & To Be Made!	And - if your local TV or radio station has a "trouble shooters" or "help" segment on their news program - try them too.

06-23-2010, 03:55 PM	#10509
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,922 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	And not to jump on the "sue the bastards" bandwagon, but if Walmart gave him the wrong medicine that permanently damaged him, they are liable.

06-23-2010, 04:10 PM	#10510
Roger Parkinson Zealot Posts: 143 Karma: 108036 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Device: Samsung Galaxy S	Gosh that must be tough. So avoidable, so devastating. I don't have any advice but I do hope things improve for you.

06-23-2010, 05:17 PM	#10512
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,922 Karma: 119747553 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2 & PW, Onyx Boox Go6	Well, I'm sure Walmart has crushed many a lawyer with their big bucks! Good Luck!

06-23-2010, 05:49 PM	#10513
recluse Banned Posts: 3,724 Karma: 535488 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: the Mortuary Device: Kindle 2	I'm behind you 100%, Janette. I won't shop at WalMart. I got my family to stop. And we are spreading the word. You take them on. Tell everyone. Go to the media. They have an ugly track record of steamrolling over people. This goes beyond anything acceptable. Good luck. My prayers are with you and your family.

06-23-2010, 08:22 PM	#10514
nomesque Snooty Bestselling Author Posts: 1,485 Karma: 1000000 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ipswich, QLD, Australia Device: PRS-650	Feeling like CRAP, but I have far too much work to do... I just really, really want to sleep. Stupid heart. Someday I'll earn enough from writing fiction to ditch the whole day job thing. That's the only hope keeping me sane right now. (and yes, this is mostly despair-of-the-moment talking - things could be a lot worse, but they feel incredibly crap right now)

06-23-2010, 08:22 PM	#10515
SneakySnake I'm watching you! Posts: 6,113 Karma: 22344652 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sunny Coast Qld, OZ Device: Sony PRS-900(unused lately) iPadAir2, want me Kindle Oasis	My heart goes out to you Janette. Chin up, I hope you find the strength to fight the coming battles. Sending you some muntavibes.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v. (munta {u as in push} = strength/power)