The word liseuse being used outside of MobileRead?

[ardeegee]

Originally Posted by TGS

Just watched a TV programme about parkour - freerunning. Strange how such a horrible word of French origin can come to be universally accepted.

And another illustration of exactly what less-use isn't. Parkour is "a non-competitive, physical discipline of French origin in which participants run along a route, attempting to negotiate obstacles in the most efficient way possible." Again, the name for the concept comes from a foreign language because it is the culture that introduced the concept. Which is the utterly natural way that new words are introduced into a language. But the French did not invent the electronic book reader. Which invalidates the analogy utterly.

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

And another illustration of exactly what less-use isn't. Parkour is "a non-competitive, physical discipline of French origin in which participants run along a route, attempting to negotiate obstacles in the most efficient way possible." Again, the name for the concept comes from a foreign language because it is the culture that introduced the concept. Which is the utterly natural way that new words are introduced into a language. But the French did not invent the electronic book reader. Which invalidates the analogy utterly.

just for the record, although it is surprising in light of the relative ignorance of the general french public with regards to ebooks, they actually have a long history here.
- Bookeen, a french company founded in Paris, one of the pioneers of the ebook hardware companies, has been making liseuses since 2003, and was founded by original members of
- Cytale, creator of the Cybook, founded in Paris in 1998, who were making liseuses back in 1998.
- Mobipocket is a french company, founded in Paris in 2000.
- Feedbooks is more recent but arguably unique, and is also french.
I don't know whether any of these were "first" but definitely among the first and certainly proof of a significant history here.

[TGS]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Which invalidates the analogy utterly.

It might do if I was drawing an analogy - but I wasn't.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by TGS

It might do if I was drawing an analogy - but I wasn't.

Would that drawing be done using Pencil? Pen and Ink? Pastels?

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

just for the record, although it is surprising in light of the relative ignorance of the general french public with regards to ebooks, they actually have a long history here.
- Bookeen, a french company founded in Paris, one of the pioneers of the ebook hardware companies, has been making liseuses since 2003, and was founded by original members of
- Cytale, creator of the Cybook, founded in Paris in 1998, who were making liseuses back in 1998.
- Mobipocket is a french company, founded in Paris in 2000.
- Feedbooks is more recent but arguably unique, and is also french.
I don't know whether any of these were "first" but definitely among the first and certainly proof of a significant history here.

I'm thinking Sony may have been the first so why not a Japanese word?

Here's the wikipedia timeline which is interesting and indicated that Sony was the first:

2006: Sony presents the Sony Reader with e-ink.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-book

[WT Sharpe]

What's Klingon for e-reader/liseuse?

[TGS]

Originally Posted by kennyc

Would that drawing be done using Pencil? Pen and Ink? Pastels?

Most likely on an Etch-a-Sketch - or thinking about it, maybe I could use the scribble facility on my IREX DR800 liseuse.

[poohbear_nc]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I'm thinking Sony may have been the first so why not a Japanese word?

That would be E rīdā in romagi

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I'm thinking Sony may have been the first so why not a Japanese word?

you go right ahead and call it whatever you want to. nobody here is stopping you.




oh wait, the anti-liseuse brigade might try to stop you.

[vivaldirules]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

What's Klingon for e-reader/liseuse?

Kaak blechh! Like everything else in Klingon.

[TGS]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I'm thinking Sony may have been the first so why not a Japanese word?

Who in their right mind would want to use a nasty Japanese word when there's a perfectly good French word that the whole world already uses?

[zelda_pinwheel]

Originally Posted by kennyc

I'm thinking Sony may have been the first so why not a Japanese word?

Here's the wikipedia timeline which is interesting and indicated that Sony was the first:

2006: Sony presents the Sony Reader with e-ink.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-book

i think you'll find that 1998 predates 2006 by approximately 8 years.

1998: Cybook / Cybook Gen1 Sold and manufactured at first by Cytale (1998–2003) then by Bookeen

Originally Posted by TGS

Who in their right mind would want to use a nasty Japanese word when there's a perfectly good French word that the whole world already uses?

[dmaul1114]

What matters in introduction in the mainstream. Parkour isn't mainstream, but it's been introduced everywhere with the same term so it's stuck. But it might would change if it became a competitive sport and became more mainstream. Who knows.

E-readers aren't mainstream and have been introduced with various terms--and in America it's mainly be introduced as a brand name. People see e-readers of whatever brand here and often ask "Is that a Kindle (or iPad lately!)" much like they ask for a "Kleenex" when needing a tissue!

Again, I have no problem with people playing their game on here and trying to use the term. But it will never catch on in the mainstream--especially in English speaking areas. Remember the "freedom" fries thing in the US. There's a ton of anti-French resentment in the US, the UK etc. so on top of being a foreign word, the fact that it's French will hurt it's adoption with many.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

What's Klingon for e-reader/liseuse?

De'wI' paq

according to http://mughom.wizage.net/

That's almost worse than the silly french word.

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by zelda_pinwheel

i think you'll find that 1998 predates 2006 by approximately 8 years.

Looks like Rocketbook just edged it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBook