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Old 06-21-2010, 08:12 AM   #211
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My primary concern is that it appears to be a cause of argument and even hostility here at MR, and that's not good for anyone. I have no problem at all with people using it in the Lounge for a bit of fun, but when people attempt to use it in, say, the "News" forum, trouble always results.
But none of us using the word actually cause any fuss, until we're pressured by those who get angry over our usage. How many months have we Liseusers been merrily using the word in casual terms with each other? I've used it with English friends when I'm stuck for an adequate description for my Liseuse. If anything the anger and the trouble always comes from those who are against using the word. We, the Liseusers, are on the defensive in this word battle.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:16 AM   #212
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I have just returned from an exam for my MA - the exam was in cognitive aesthetics. One of the pictures that I had to analyze was this:



And I managed to get liseuse into the conversation, both as the title of a number of paintings depicting women reading and, by metaphorical extension, as the name for an electronic device used for reading upon. Neither of the examiners batted an eyelid and by the end of the exam all three of us were using the word freely - oh, and one of the examiners lives in Paris.

I think the tide is turning.
I always see a dove in that picture, and that to me is often symbolic of reading....a form of peace.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:17 AM   #213
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I really have to ask why anyone cares. The fact that a small group of people in this forum have essentially said "wouldn't it be fun if we started using this word" isn't going to get it adopted by anyone else, and it just annoys people to try. You can guarantee that any thread that uses the word outside this forum is going to instantly get derailed into arguments about the use of the word, and that the actual subject matter of the post will be completely ignored.

A word used by a small number of people in an area is a colloquialism. Like, howdy and y'all in Texas. Colloquialisms can encompass very small groups. There were colloquialisms from my neighborhood youth I never heard anywhere else in my life (usually repurposed words). I don't understand why such heat about a small group colloquialism...
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:18 AM   #214
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Picasso - Girl Reading
Thanks! That painting is remarkable.
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:26 AM   #215
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I have just returned from an exam for my MA - the exam was in cognitive aesthetics. One of the pictures that I had to analyze was this:

I always see a dove in that picture, and that to me is often symbolic of reading....a form of peace.
It puts me in mind of a Japanese actor wearing a Godzilla costume taking a break to read his Kindle.


Seriously, that's a lovely painting. I may use it for my PC wallpaper, or screensaver for one of my .... reading devices.

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Old 06-21-2010, 08:33 AM   #216
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Seriously, that's a lovely painting. I may use it for my PC wallpaper, or screensaver for my .... reading device.
I'm sure your liseuse will be very happy to have a liseuse as a screensaver
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:33 AM   #217
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I suggest "Breader" as a compromise. It's simple to pronounce, it doesn't overlap with any other word nor causes synechdoques and it sounds easier for English tongues
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:36 AM   #218
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I suggest "Breader" as a compromise. It's simple to pronounce, it doesn't overlap with any other word nor causes synechdoques and it sounds easier for English tongues
And if somebody doesn't like, it's toast!
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Old 06-21-2010, 08:37 AM   #219
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Breader it is!
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Everyone who drops into the Llounge does ..... whether everyone on MR does, is another question that needs answering.

I keep wondering if this ought to be put up as a poll in the General Discussion forum (rather than the lounge).

Knowing doesn't, necessarily, equate with "using" .....
just drop it. leave it as something the whackos in the Lounge pLlay around with

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sounds to much like what some homosexuals call non-homosexuals
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just drop it. leave it as something the whackos in the Lounge pLlay around with

Tone it down, lest we start getting into some real discussions on how whacko it is to promote the 'cuteness' of mutated, hybrid fashion cats in the lounge. And no I'm not kidding.
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whatever
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But at least everyone on MR knows what it means now - which is a good thing don't you think?
Not really as this site is pretty crummy, member wise. So I don't really care what people here know or think.

Now let me go buy another DRM Kindle book to give some of the nerds here another aneurysm!
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Not really as this site is pretty crummy, member wise. So I don't really care what people here know or think.

Now let me go buy another DRM Kindle book to give some of the nerds here another aneurysm!
The Kindle? That would be that American Liseuse wouldn't it?

EDIT: Nerd Raaaaaage!!!

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My primary concern is that it appears to be a cause of argument and even hostility here at MR, and that's not good for anyone. I have no problem at all with people using it in the Lounge for a bit of fun, but when people attempt to use it in, say, the "News" forum, trouble always results.
i would agree that it is a subject of concern that certain people feel free to show such hostility to prevent others from using a simple word. i have no problem with any of the "liseuse loathers" *not* using the word if they don't want to and in fact i have yet to see one single example of anyone trying to "force" the use of the word on someone who's not interested. on the other hand, a small but vocal group seems to think that if they don't like the word then *no-one* should use and they tend to resort to rather extreme tactics trying to stifle it, and i do find that objectionable.

perhaps as a moderator it's time for me to give a friendly reminder about our guidelines. in a nutshell, be polite and respectful, and that includes when someone uses a different word than your personal choice. that means no name-calling, no attacks, and no mobbing a thread using the word just to complain about that one word. if everyone takes that to heart we'd have no more of these frankly inappropriate attacks which derail conversations and cause arguments. use whatever word you like, but respect the choice of others as well.
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