Cybook Gen3 samples getting ready!!! - Page 3

delphidb96 · 09-12-2007, 06:38 PM

The PRS-500 is out there, available for purchase. So it's still a valid comparison. However, as soon as I can get my hands on a PRS-505, I'll be doing a comparison of that. And if anyone has a Hanlin V3 or iLiad they'd like to donate to the cause, I'll compare those as well. Look, I'm not rich and NAEB is small right now. Given that I must rely upon my (vastly limited) own resources or donationware to do these comparisons, someone's going to have to pony up or we'll just have to wait on the comparisons.

Derek

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I hate to say this.. But... Any review of the Cybook vs. the PRS-500 is now going to be OBSOLETE! You'll need to get one of the new Sony models in (I hope) October to compare. For one, you cannot compare the screens and the ergonomics of the button layout. And we don't know about ebook version 2.0. So basically, any comparison review of the current model won't be all that useful.

nekokami · 09-12-2007, 08:03 PM

If you'd asked over the summer, I could possibly have loaned you my iLiad for a week + shipping time each way... but we're in the semester now, and I need it to read journal articles. Maybe over the holiday break. (We get about 4 weeks between semesters.)

Edit: I could loan you an eBookwise 1150 for a couple of weeks, if you haven't played with one already. I know it doesn't compete with e ink, but it's a surprisingly nifty little device for the price.

Ravenflight · 09-12-2007, 09:30 PM

I will happily lend you my Sony reader if you give me a loaner Cybook for the duration- keep it as long as you like!

delphidb96 · 09-13-2007, 01:03 AM

Very thoughtful of you. So what you're REALLY telling us is you HAVE a Sony PRS-505, right? Because I already have a PRS-500.

Derek

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Originally Posted by Ravenflight

I will happily lend you my Sony reader if you give me a loaner Cybook for the duration- keep it as long as you like!

Ravenflight · 09-13-2007, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

Very thoughtful of you. So what you're REALLY telling us is you HAVE a Sony PRS-505, right? Because I already have a PRS-500.

Derek

Nah- who'd want one of those PRS-505's? Even if it has one of the new vizplex screens, how can you appreciate it with that horrid silver color throwing all that glare in your eyes? It'll only make the contrast worse. Then there's all those buttons along the right side getting accidently pushed whenever you close the cover, the right border is wider than the left- makes the whole thing look lopsided. I would never cheat you by offering one of those. I was talking about the good one- the classic PRS-500!

TadW · 09-13-2007, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenflight

Nah- who'd want one of those PRS-505's? Even if it has one of the new vizplex screens, how can you appreciate it with that horrid silver color throwing all that glare in your eyes?

Grin. From the leak I gathered they come in two colors.

JSWolf · 09-13-2007, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TadW

Grin. From the leak I gathered they come in two colors.

And the non-silver is navy blue.

Ravenflight · 09-13-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

And the non-silver is navy blue.

Yes but that hardly makes up for it's other faults- besides it only means half of the buyers will end up with a reader that the first time they try reading outdoors they'll say "This stinks! It's much easier to read paper books outdoors!"

And what's this I read in the specs its "1/2 an inch thin" and has a "depth of 0.3 inches"? What sort of non-euclidean geometry is this? Do they have M.C. Escher designing the thing? Sounds like something Lovecraft could have written a thing or two about- how a persons eyes are drawn to it's unsettling form and hypnotized till the viewer goes insane.

HarryT · 09-13-2007, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

But the big "advantage" of the Cybook is the Vizplex. screen.

I disagree. For me personally, the big advantage is MobiPocket support. I really don't give two hoots whether or not the screen is 5% more reflective

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Ravenflight · 09-13-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I disagree. For me personally, the big advantage is MobiPocket support. I really don't give two hoots whether or not the screen is 5% more reflective

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Yes but what about the other characteristics of the screen? On my Sony there is ghosting- not bad, but it's there and it's noticeable. Is it the same on the Vizplex? Better? Worse? Also what color is the vizplex- is it really white like paper or the same grayish white like cardboard?

Personally I could care less about Mobipocket support. Till they make a OSX and a Linux client it's still just one more single platform, proprietary format with little use to anyone who doesn't run Windows XP. And their attitude toward releasing such a cross platform solution seems decidedly hostile. If you've read any of the threads on their support forum of all the requests for OSX support you'll see what I mean. They obviously have a Java client that will run on OSX and Linux- why don't they just release it as such?

delphidb96 · 09-13-2007, 02:05 PM

Ravenflight,

Correct me if I'm wrong - I'm not a Macnatic - but don't Mac OSX users have the ability to run WinXP, and it's apps, as a secondary OS? That's the one thing which is leading me to think my next hardware upgrade should be to a Mac system whereby I can get around all the WinVista problems. If this isn't the case, then why should anyone consider getting a Mac?

Derek

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Originally Posted by Ravenflight

Yes but what about the other characteristics of the screen? On my Sony there is ghosting- not bad, but it's there and it's noticeable. Is it the same on the Vizplex? Better? Worse? Also what color is the vizplex- is it really white like paper or the same grayish white like cardboard?

Personally I could care less about Mobipocket support. Till they make a OSX and a Linux client it's still just one more single platform, proprietary format with little use to anyone who doesn't run Windows XP. And their attitude toward releasing such a cross platform solution seems decidedly hostile. If you've read any of the threads on their support forum of all the requests for OSX support you'll see what I mean. They obviously have a Java client that will run on OSX and Linux- why don't they just release it as such?

Ravenflight · 09-13-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by delphidb96

Ravenflight,

Correct me if I'm wrong - I'm not a Macnatic - but don't Mac OSX users have the ability to run WinXP, and it's apps, as a secondary OS? That's the one thing which is leading me to think my next hardware upgrade should be to a Mac system whereby I can get around all the WinVista problems. If this isn't the case, then why should anyone consider getting a Mac?

Derek

Of course you can run Windows on the mac. There are several methods from Apple's own Bootcamp to VMwares Fusion. However they all require you to actually purchase a copy of Windows (which btw costs more than a copy of OSX!) and then subjects you to all the headaches and security risks that using Windows involves.

Do I want to go to all this trouble and expense just to run Mobipocket? Mmmm no. I'd like to be able to download one file version of a book and be able to read that file on my Mac and on my reader. Is that too much to ask? Tell me the Cybook has e-Reader support and I'll be much more interested. There's a company that knows how to make a reader that runs on multiple OS's.

HarryT · 09-13-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenflight

Personally I could care less about Mobipocket support. Till they make a OSX and a Linux client it's still just one more single platform, proprietary format with little use to anyone who doesn't run Windows XP.

Sorry? MobiPocket Reader is available for a wide range of different hardware platforms - it most definitely is not "single platform" and you certainly don't need to run XP to use it. I am personally running it on three completely different hardware platforms - XP, iLiad, and Smartphone.

So what if the "desktop reader" is only available for Windows? Do you really want to read books on your desktop computer? I certainly don't. You don't need that to buy books - you can buy Mobi format books from any one of a dozen different websites.

wallcraft · 09-13-2007, 03:25 PM

If MobiPocket does not want to port their Java version to OSX and Linux, then wine might be a viable option. CodeWeaver's will even do most of the work (if MobiPocket pays them), and I simply don't believe that MobiPocket lacks the resources to do this.

Egghead · 09-13-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenflight

On my Sony there is ghosting- not bad, but it's there and it's noticeable. Is it the same on the Vizplex? Better? Worse?

This is something I'd certainly like to know. I think the ghosting IS bad. Headache-inducing bad.

If it's as bad on the Cybook as on the reader, then it will be a deal-breaker for me.

09-12-2007, 08:03 PM	#32
nekokami fruminous edugeek Posts: 6,745 Karma: 551260 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Northeast US Device: iPad, eBw 1150	If you'd asked over the summer, I could possibly have loaned you my iLiad for a week + shipping time each way... but we're in the semester now, and I need it to read journal articles. Maybe over the holiday break. (We get about 4 weeks between semesters.) Edit: I could loan you an eBookwise 1150 for a couple of weeks, if you haven't played with one already. I know it doesn't compete with e ink, but it's a surprisingly nifty little device for the price. Last edited by nekokami; 09-12-2007 at 08:06 PM. Reason: eBw 1150

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09-12-2007, 09:30 PM	#33
Ravenflight Connoisseur Posts: 96 Karma: 20 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Santa Clarita, CA Device: Sony Reader, Macbook, iPhone	I will happily lend you my Sony reader if you give me a loaner Cybook for the duration- keep it as long as you like!

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wallcraft reader Posts: 6,977 Karma: 5183568 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mississippi, USA Device: Kindle 3, Kobo Glo HD	If MobiPocket does not want to port their Java version to OSX and Linux, then wine might be a viable option. CodeWeaver's will even do most of the work (if MobiPocket pays them), and I simply don't believe that MobiPocket lacks the resources to do this.