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HarryT · 09-11-2007, 03:27 AM

Have iRex given you any indication of when you're likely to get your iLiad, Martin?

tribble · 09-11-2007, 03:34 AM

The new iLiads should arrive at iRex onspetember 14th.

HappyMartin · 09-11-2007, 01:50 PM

Thanks Tribble, that is more info than iRex gave me. Is the 14 Sept date confirmed do you know? Hate to get my hopes up. feel like the great complainer of this fine forum at the moment but gee guys, the money left my account almost 2 weeks ago.

No Harry, to your question. All my info is coming from this forum. I am really enjoying it here, just not contributing much at the moment.

Nate the great · 09-11-2007, 01:55 PM

I also got a date of 14 September from the American distributor.

HappyMartin · 09-11-2007, 01:57 PM

Tremendous, thank you very much Great Nate.

Adam B. · 09-11-2007, 03:23 PM

Man, you new buyers are spoiled with quick shipping.

I had to wait almost 4 weeks when I ordered my iLiad in December...

eReaderOutfitr · 09-11-2007, 05:00 PM

iRex confirmed they would ship Thursday from Europe. We're expecting our shipment to arrive on Tuesday or Wednesday. Customer orders are prepared waiting for iLiads and shipping labels.

Jeff

MikeF74 · 09-12-2007, 02:05 PM

I'm rather new here, so please forgive me for my likely unfounded speculation...

Is this stock shortage of the iLiad perhaps due to E-Ink screen production moving over to the new Vixplex screens. The newer screen that will be used in the new Cybook Gen 3 and presumably the minor update to the Sony Reader?

It seems iLiad is the only one not to announce a new model. Perhaps they will just quietly sell the update screen under the original iLiad name with a quiet "Rev. B" stamped somewhere on the underside.

Larger companies, such as Sony, always want to tout a minor modification as a major overhaul, perhaps iRex just isn't as slimy as that.

tribble · 09-12-2007, 05:20 PM

No, the iLiad will not have Vizplex screen for some time. The large vizplex screens are not yet mass production ready. It will at least take till January for larger vizplex screens to appear. I do hope the iLiad will get one aswell eventually, but i must also point out, that the vizplex is not as big a step foreward as some people here believe.

It will be whiter and have slightly faster switch times, but the contrast ratio is lower than on the current screens. I cant wait to see a live comparison between the two screens though.

JSWolf · 09-17-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tribble

It will be whiter and have slightly faster switch times, but the contrast ratio is lower than on the current screens. I cant wait to see a live comparison between the two screens though.

How do you know the contrast ratio is lower? Would it not be higher given a whiter background?

tribble · 09-17-2007, 05:08 PM

You can measure contrast. It is relative. So while the screen is whiter, the black will not distinguish itself from the white as much as it did on the older displays. (it was stated on the eink homepage somwhere) But thats just numbers, i have no idea, wether the vizplex screens give you a subjective better reading experience. I will have to wait and see

HappyMartin · 09-18-2007, 01:22 AM

Contrast is simply the difference in density between the white and the black. If the white is whiter and the black remains constant the contrast will be higher. If the white stays constant and the black gets darker that will of course also give more contrast. There are of course other issues involved in readability such as specular surface reflections, size of object you are attempting to distinguish and the resolution of the output. If the edges of a black image are sharp it makes reading easier than if they are fuzzy.

I have never sen an e ink display but am a commercial photographer and the issues must be the same though less complex with e readers than with photographic images.

ig88 · 09-21-2007, 05:49 PM

You also have to consider that the iLiad has a different screen than the other eReaders.

In addition to its larger size, it supports more grey scales (16 vs 4), and I would imagine that the Wacom screen changes the display characteristics as well.

With the larger screen size and the increased grey scales, I am not sure the other changes would make the newer rev Readers that much of a wow factor over the older iLiads.

09-11-2007, 05:00 PM	#22
eReaderOutfitr iLiad Reseller Posts: 5 Karma: 120 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pleasanton CA Device: iLiad	Waiting until the 14th iRex confirmed they would ship Thursday from Europe. We're expecting our shipment to arrive on Tuesday or Wednesday. Customer orders are prepared waiting for iLiads and shipping labels. Jeff

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09-11-2007, 03:27 AM	#16
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Have iRex given you any indication of when you're likely to get your iLiad, Martin?

09-11-2007, 03:34 AM	#17
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	The new iLiads should arrive at iRex onspetember 14th.

09-11-2007, 01:50 PM	#18
HappyMartin Martin Kristiansen Posts: 1,546 Karma: 8480958 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Johannesburg Device: Kindle International Ipad 2	Thanks Tribble, that is more info than iRex gave me. Is the 14 Sept date confirmed do you know? Hate to get my hopes up. feel like the great complainer of this fine forum at the moment but gee guys, the money left my account almost 2 weeks ago. No Harry, to your question. All my info is coming from this forum. I am really enjoying it here, just not contributing much at the moment.

09-11-2007, 01:55 PM	#19
Nate the great Sir Penguin of Edinburgh Posts: 12,375 Karma: 23555235 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: DC Metro area Device: Shake a stick plus 1	I also got a date of 14 September from the American distributor.

09-11-2007, 01:57 PM	#20
HappyMartin Martin Kristiansen Posts: 1,546 Karma: 8480958 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Johannesburg Device: Kindle International Ipad 2	Tremendous, thank you very much Great Nate.

09-11-2007, 03:23 PM	#21
Adam B. Addicted to Porting Posts: 1,697 Karma: 7194 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN Device: iRex iLiad, Nokia 770, Samsung i760	Man, you new buyers are spoiled with quick shipping. I had to wait almost 4 weeks when I ordered my iLiad in December...

09-12-2007, 02:05 PM	#23
MikeF74 Groupie Posts: 179 Karma: 28 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-505	I'm rather new here, so please forgive me for my likely unfounded speculation... Is this stock shortage of the iLiad perhaps due to E-Ink screen production moving over to the new Vixplex screens. The newer screen that will be used in the new Cybook Gen 3 and presumably the minor update to the Sony Reader? It seems iLiad is the only one not to announce a new model. Perhaps they will just quietly sell the update screen under the original iLiad name with a quiet "Rev. B" stamped somewhere on the underside. Larger companies, such as Sony, always want to tout a minor modification as a major overhaul, perhaps iRex just isn't as slimy as that.

09-12-2007, 05:20 PM	#24
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	No, the iLiad will not have Vizplex screen for some time. The large vizplex screens are not yet mass production ready. It will at least take till January for larger vizplex screens to appear. I do hope the iLiad will get one aswell eventually, but i must also point out, that the vizplex is not as big a step foreward as some people here believe. It will be whiter and have slightly faster switch times, but the contrast ratio is lower than on the current screens. I cant wait to see a live comparison between the two screens though.

09-17-2007, 05:08 PM	#26
tribble iLiad Maniac Posts: 1,382 Karma: 2369 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Device: Bookeen Opus (i love that thing) and iPad (what an irony)	You can measure contrast. It is relative. So while the screen is whiter, the black will not distinguish itself from the white as much as it did on the older displays. (it was stated on the eink homepage somwhere) But thats just numbers, i have no idea, wether the vizplex screens give you a subjective better reading experience. I will have to wait and see

09-18-2007, 01:22 AM	#27
HappyMartin Martin Kristiansen Posts: 1,546 Karma: 8480958 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Johannesburg Device: Kindle International Ipad 2	Contrast is simply the difference in density between the white and the black. If the white is whiter and the black remains constant the contrast will be higher. If the white stays constant and the black gets darker that will of course also give more contrast. There are of course other issues involved in readability such as specular surface reflections, size of object you are attempting to distinguish and the resolution of the output. If the edges of a black image are sharp it makes reading easier than if they are fuzzy. I have never sen an e ink display but am a commercial photographer and the issues must be the same though less complex with e readers than with photographic images.

09-21-2007, 05:49 PM	#28
ig88 Gadget Guy Posts: 76 Karma: 84 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Minnesota Device: iLiad - iPhone - OSX	You also have to consider that the iLiad has a different screen than the other eReaders. In addition to its larger size, it supports more grey scales (16 vs 4), and I would imagine that the Wacom screen changes the display characteristics as well. With the larger screen size and the increased grey scales, I am not sure the other changes would make the newer rev Readers that much of a wow factor over the older iLiads.