iPad Do you think the next iPad will have a "retina display"? - Page 3

Kolenka · 06-10-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WillAdams

While Quartz can be described as ``Display PDF'', architecturally, it's a bit different and programs w/ DPS dependencies are not a recompile for Mac OSX. Losing DPS meant a lot of things were lost such as nxhosting, direct display of .eps graphics and .ps files (Mac OS X has to distill them to .pdfs) &c.

Thanks for catching the yellow box error --- always get those reversed.

So for the purposes of specific implementation, yes, they are different. I've never delved that deep into the graphics engine, really, so I'll take your word as to what is missing/changed.

But for the purposes that jibril brought up, OS X and iOS already have a big chunk of the architecture required to meet the concept of moving towards a less pixel-centric rendering system. Where it falls flat right now is that all rendering that an app does is still done in terms of pixels, rather than physical dimensions and aspect ratio. That's not going to be an easy fix without deprecating large swaths of APIs and introducing new ones. We can hope it will happen at some point though.

scottjl · 06-10-2010, 06:51 PM

delete me

dorino · 06-11-2010, 11:22 AM

Ooo, quality control was brought up recently... I'm laughing at the thought of someone buying a huge DPI 10in screen and then having a bunch of dead pixels scattered throughout... Joy!

murraypaul · 06-11-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dorino

Ooo, quality control was brought up recently... I'm laughing at the thought of someone buying a huge DPI 10in screen and then having a bunch of dead pixels scattered throughout... Joy!

I've got a dead pixel on my iPad screen, which kind of bugs me.

stustaff · 06-11-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by murraypaul

I've got a dead pixel on my iPad screen, which kind of bugs me.

Warranty?

kjk · 06-11-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by murraypaul

I've got a dead pixel on my iPad screen, which kind of bugs me.

Apple is pretty good about replacing iPods/iPhones with dead pixels-might be worth taking it in and asking!

charleski · 06-11-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kjk

Apple is pretty good about replacing iPods/iPhones with dead pixels-might be worth taking it in and asking!

Absolutely! That's defective and needs a replacement (and shouldn't have got past QA).

scottjl · 06-11-2010, 02:43 PM

at least it can't hurt to take it into an apple store and have them look it over, if there is one nearby. they used to have some policy about 5 pixels in a row or 6 scattered on the screen, no idea what it is these days.

with the retina display, i doubt you'd even notice a single dead pixel, and if you had a streak that was noticeable they'd have little argument against replacing it.

murraypaul · 06-11-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stustaff

Warranty?

The risk I took buying a US iPad and bringing it back to the UK.

scottjl · 06-11-2010, 05:09 PM

hmm. making another trip out? you have 1yr from date of purchase on hardware issues. or send it back here to family/friend.

stustaff · 06-11-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by murraypaul

The risk I took buying a US iPad and bringing it back to the UK.

Not really seeing as apple warranty is worldwide,you bought it from apple they are one company it's not complicated like when you buy from say Sony in US and they are a different company technically to Sony Europe.!

I asked before sending for mine from IS if it would be covered here and they said yes! BUTnot until the iPad is released in the UK as they wouldn't be trained up on what to do or have it in the system.

But basically your covered! You bought it from Apple and you can take it back to Apple.

kjk · 06-11-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stustaff

Not really seeing as apple warranty is worldwide,you bought it from apple they are one company it's not complicated like when you buy from say Sony in US and they are a different company technically to Sony Europe.!

I asked before sending for mine from IS if it would be covered here and they said yes! BUTnot until the iPad is released in the UK as they wouldn't be trained up on what to do or have it in the system.

But basically your covered! You bought it from Apple and you can take it back to Apple.

Yes, shouldn't be an issue. Plus, all iPads are still under warranty

HarryT · 06-12-2010, 04:24 AM

Virtually all manufacturers have a specification of what constitutes a faulty screen when it comes to "dead" or "hot" pixels. A single such pixel would rarely - if ever - be regarded as a fault.

murraypaul · 06-12-2010, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Virtually all manufacturers have a specification of what constitutes a faulty screen when it comes to "dead" or "hot" pixels. A single such pixel would rarely - if ever - be regarded as a fault.

That is the thought I had, it is certainly annoying for me, but I don't think I would expect them to replace it.

scottjl · 06-12-2010, 06:18 PM

you'll never know unless you ask..

06-10-2010, 06:51 PM	#32
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06-11-2010, 11:22 AM	#33
dorino I'm odd. Take note. Posts: 325 Karma: 779 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Montana Device: deceased PRS-600, Nook STR	Ooo, quality control was brought up recently... I'm laughing at the thought of someone buying a huge DPI 10in screen and then having a bunch of dead pixels scattered throughout... Joy!

06-11-2010, 02:43 PM	#38
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	at least it can't hurt to take it into an apple store and have them look it over, if there is one nearby. they used to have some policy about 5 pixels in a row or 6 scattered on the screen, no idea what it is these days. with the retina display, i doubt you'd even notice a single dead pixel, and if you had a streak that was noticeable they'd have little argument against replacing it.

06-11-2010, 05:09 PM	#40
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	hmm. making another trip out? you have 1yr from date of purchase on hardware issues. or send it back here to family/friend.

06-12-2010, 04:24 AM	#43
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Virtually all manufacturers have a specification of what constitutes a faulty screen when it comes to "dead" or "hot" pixels. A single such pixel would rarely - if ever - be regarded as a fault.

06-12-2010, 06:18 PM	#45
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	you'll never know unless you ask..