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Faenad · 05-31-2010, 12:02 AM

Dropbox is actually much more convenient to load PDF on an Ipad, much more than Itunes.
It's still not a friendly as a standard file system, but it's fine.

And with Goodreader and iAnnotate, PDF are actually a strong point of the Ipad compared to the DX. Shame on Amazon, that a 1$ apps should be that much better than their dedicated reader -Even though the LCD screen and the processor help scrolling around large PDF alot-.

Anyway, one good reason not to sell the DX is that it's still a fine device, you should consider keeping it a little bit longer as a bunch of tablet and reader will be released this year.

EricLandes · 05-31-2010, 06:12 PM

You say you want one good reason why you shouldn't sell your DX and buy an iPad? How about 13 reasons from MacWorld?

http://www.macworld.com/article/1513...ad_kindle.html

Snorkledorf · 05-31-2010, 08:15 PM

I don't have a DX, but I do have both a K2i (7 months old) and an iPad (4 days old). They're just very different toys. But considering the iPad only in its role as an ebook reader...

The iPad is bigger than the K2, but maybe in the same league as the DX? I think it's thicker though, and I'm assuming heavier. I read my K2 on the train in one hand, but I'd never pull out the iPad unless I had found a seat, and even then it'd feel like, "Behold! Make room, for I use an iPad! iPad, I say!" But again, maybe the DX isn't so much different in size. And maybe you're not reading while dangling from a strap.

Battery life is the big thing with an active display like the iPad. It's so easy to get used to the Kindle's long battery life that it makes anything else feel even shorter than it is. It's still new to me, but I'm always going, "OMG my iPad's battery is already at 89%!"

The active display is very different from the Kindle's e-ink. Personally I read the entire Twilight series in Stanza on my iPod Touch

without noticing any eyestrain, but it apparently bothers some people. The Kindle is great in sunlight, the iPad is great in Starbucks.

I've been scanning a lot of my old books for conversion to PDF, and tried displaying them on the Kindle, but found the PDF handling to be disappointing. (IOW these are image-based docs, not PDFs generated from text-based data.) Somehow the grays come out way too light, with fonts breaking up and fine curves looking blocky because the gradated edges were below some display threshold. Of course they look great on the computer and iPad.

Annotating and such is much more doable on the iPad because of the touch screen. I'm still experimenting there, looking for the best apps, so I don't know much yet.

I'm still learning what my iPad is really for, so it'll be a bit before it and the Kindle find their respective places in my life. I wouldn't give up the K2i for the iPad, but I'm not sure what I'd do if I had a DX.

extendedping · 05-31-2010, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilam

You can download an application to read PDF's. I am using Goodreader, it costs a little over $1. But you have to deal with the PITA that is iTunes to upload the PDF files. The iPad can also read PDF's if you e-mail them to yourself, or access them via a web site.

I read large technical documents on my Kindle DX. It is the main reason I purchased it. I can not read these documents on the iPad, as I suffer eye strain using it.

As to the iPad I purchased it to demonstrate Web Applications to clients on a tablet. It does this well. Not very happy with the rest of it though.

I am happy with the Kindle not being a touch screen. The Kindle is what it is. It does not bother me using physical buttons. Also if Amazon did implement a touch screen there are two main ways. Finger touch which would add a layer over the top of the eInk, with the very real possibility of adding to glare. Or a tablet interface such as Wacom that would require a pen. What they have now works and works well. Why mess with it just because Apple has a touch screen on a multifunction device?

In technology it is important to remember just because you can do something, should you?

I just can't read a 1000 page multi chapter book without being able to easily get around. more power to you. I did the free covert by sending some pdf's to free.kindle.com with convert in the title. it did allow me to bookmark the toc page (though toc is still grayed out in menu) so that is good, but like every 20th word will read something like "I went tothe store to buysome milk", which makes the converted pdf (now a azw file) pretty close to unreadable. I just wish they would enable darn pdf toc. common we put a man on the moon over 40 years ago, we can't have this on the most popular ereader on the planet?

ArtWench · 05-31-2010, 11:40 PM

I've played with the iPad and I really am not impressed with it's abilities as an eReader. I love the movie, the music, the photo aps; but, after using a Kindle, I found the iPad too heavy and to glaring white for reading comfortably. The touch screen is fun; but, doesn't really do anything for the reading experience. I'm sticking to my Kindle.

pboss · 06-01-2010, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricLandes

You say you want one good reason why you shouldn't sell your DX and buy an iPad? How about 13 reasons from MacWorld?

http://www.macworld.com/article/1513...ad_kindle.html

There are some valid points in the article but some commenters went overboard. I would replace skin cancer with premature ejaculation.

Sheikspeare · 06-01-2010, 01:25 PM

pboss, this is good list with sound examples though with the assumption that users have a lot of disposable income! So yeah ...

rgoulde · 06-03-2010, 10:40 AM

I have a Kindle2 and an iPad and love them both. As many people said, if you want the best ebook reading experience buy a Kindle, if you are willing to trade a small drop in e-reading for more functionality get an iPad.

- Since the weight is similar on the DX and iPad the key thing is it's effect on ergonomics while reading. It's easy to hold either when you've got both hands free and are sitting down. Lying in bed is more problematic - you tend to try to hold the device in one hand and given the weight it's awfully easy on an iPad to accidentally slip and turn the page if holding on the side or hit the close button if holding on the bottom.

- Battery life on a Kindle is measured in days, on an iPad in hours. Remember you will be using the iPad for lots of other things so that 10 hours will go faster than you think. Recharging the iPad 100% is an overnight experience (use the charger or even consider getting a faster third party charger and forget charging it while connected to your PC)

- The biggest difference is purchasing on Amazon vs iBook. I wind up going to Amazon to find more information about a book (or simply find a book) before purchasing it on iBook because it's so much better than Apple's store. I would hope the gap will narrow over time as Apple tweaks the store and more reviews show up there.

- The iPad Kindle app only works with books purchased on Amazon. Keeping track of two separate libraries of books on the iPad is workable but a pain.

- I personally like the brighter, sharper iPad screen for reading if there is at least an medium amount of ambient light. If you want to read in the dark or near dark the contrast gives me eye strain in a hour. At the other extreme when they say sunlight makes the iPad hard to see that means even daylight while you are sitting in the car can affect it's readability somewhat.

Sheikspeare · 06-03-2010, 11:56 AM

Rigoulde, one of the arguments against a netbook is they can get hot and noisy. Is this a problem with the iPad? At least in this department, the Kindle is faultless.

HarryT · 06-03-2010, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheikspeare

Rigoulde, one of the arguments against a netbook is they can get hot and noisy. Is this a problem with the iPad? At least in this department, the Kindle is faultless.

No heat or noise at all with the iPad. It's a pretty good bookreader; the user interface of the "iBooks" app is great.

rgoulde · 06-03-2010, 12:10 PM

I've noticed no noise at all (but I've got old ears). I've heard the talk about the heat problem but I have not experienced it and I've got mine in a protective folder. The only physical problem I've experienced with the iPad is keeping the screen clean (they make covers for the screen but be careful which you buy - some are hard to put on and others aren't as transparent as you'd like).

delphidb96 · 06-03-2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheikspeare

Frankly, I'm just fed up with the limited functionality of the DX - the 2.5 update has been a disappointment. The formats that can be used are limited too. The wireless function on US DX is useless if you're not in the US. Internal PDF navigation is poor.

I bought the DX to open up reading possibilities. My first ereader was a Sony 505 but I soon realised I wanted something that could do a better job of rendering a complex PDF file. It's still a great reader (the 505 I mean), but the DX just didn't meet up to my expectations. It could if Amazon weren't so obsessed with control. But I just can't be bothered to wait it out, anymore.

So, I'm now thinking why don't I just ditch the DX and get myself an iPad?

MASSIVE INCREASES in data access fees!

Derek

BobLenx · 06-03-2010, 03:50 PM

Have a Kindle-2 and a Sony-505 and use and enjoy both.

However, while Amazon exploded the concept of e-reading, clearly the iPad is setting a new direction. And like it or not, that is where we are all headed. There is no doubt that the future is going to be a tablet type device color touchscreen Bluetooth webcam USB port(s) lighter more memory and eventually color eInk. Don't bet that Amazon isn't shooting for a tablet device but with color eInk and that Apple isn't out there exploring the future of color eInk for the Ipad (they are also looking into OLED techonolgy for screens but it is pricey). And Google already has a tablet device in the works.

In the meantime, my K2 and Sony work fine and dandy for reading and my laptop does just about everything else - plus the cell phone. But oh my my my, to have one wonderful device that does it all brilliantly makes me drool. The future of WiFi virtually everywhere and cloud computing - bring it on!

Sheikspeare · 06-03-2010, 04:32 PM

BobLenx, one advantage (for me) of the eReader is the opportunity to get away from a laptop/PC/Internet. Instead what tablets ala iPad do is to help further feed addiction. As I see it, eReaders are about creating opportunities to read. In contrast, the iPad is basically a portable device for keeping you amused -- not wanting to be sniffy here, but just identifying the different (for me) focuses.

rhadin · 06-03-2010, 06:15 PM

One good reason not to buy an iPad: Steve Jobs, chief censor.

06-03-2010, 03:50 PM	#43
BobLenx Connoisseur Posts: 78 Karma: 308 Join Date: Jan 2008 Device: Sony505 K2 K3	Have a Kindle-2 and a Sony-505 and use and enjoy both. However, while Amazon exploded the concept of e-reading, clearly the iPad is setting a new direction. And like it or not, that is where we are all headed. There is no doubt that the future is going to be a tablet type device color touchscreen Bluetooth webcam USB port(s) lighter more memory and eventually color eInk. Don't bet that Amazon isn't shooting for a tablet device but with color eInk and that Apple isn't out there exploring the future of color eInk for the Ipad (they are also looking into OLED techonolgy for screens but it is pricey). And Google already has a tablet device in the works. In the meantime, my K2 and Sony work fine and dandy for reading and my laptop does just about everything else - plus the cell phone. But oh my my my, to have one wonderful device that does it all brilliantly makes me drool. The future of WiFi virtually everywhere and cloud computing - bring it on! Last edited by BobLenx; 06-03-2010 at 03:52 PM.

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