Yes! Blame the promiscuous Women for the Earthquakes

[Laz116]

Originally Posted by kindlekitten

I think it is a PERFECT example! it got people thinking outside of the narrowly confined religion box. I think if some of that liberalized thinking were applied to Islam right now it would help temper it a LOT!

After the earthquake in Lisbon in 1755 the danish national poet of the time and ardent lutheran wrote a poem about the earthquake as God's just punishment, referencing to Sodoma and Gomorra etc.

Meanwhile Voltaire took another course. As a response to the earthquake his main character addresses the spiritual leader at the end of one of his poems and says (quoted from the top of my head) something like this:

I bring you, oh almighty being, every thing you are not: The mistakes, the evilness, the stupidity.

But (says Voltaire as an author comment) he could have added hope.

Hope for a better life, hope for improvement of ones situation in this life is also something different than religion and God according to Voltaire. God promise us the afterlife. Critical thinking promise us a better life in this life we're living aat the cost of the afterlife.

The point is that it wasn't the reformation that allowed critical thinking, it was secularism.


Edit: found the real thing. It's from the "POEM ON THE LISBON DISASTER; Or an Examination of the Axiom, “All is Well”":

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A caliph once, when his last hour had come,
This prayer addressed to him he reverenced:
“To thee, sole and all-powerful king, I bear
What thou dost lack in thy immensity—
Evil and ignorance, distress and sin.”
He might have added one thing further—hope.

http://app.libraryofliberty.org/?opt...html&Itemid=27

[kindlekitten]

Originally Posted by Ea

As far as I'm aware the Reformation happened mainly because of economic oppression. The church had grown large and very, very powerful.

certainly that was a catalyst, but Martin Luther was the start of people QUESTIONING what they had been spoon fed.

Originally Posted by Laz116

After the earthquake in Lisbon in 1755 the danish national poet of the time and ardent lutheran wrote a poem about the earthquake as God's just punishment, referencing to Sodoma and Gomorra etc.

Meanwhile Voltaire took another course. As a response to the earthquake his main character addresses the spiritual leader at the end of one of his poems and says (quoted from the top of my head) something like this:



Hope for a better life, hope for improvement of ones situation in this life is also something different than religion and God according to Voltaire. God promise us the afterlife. Critical thinking promise us a better life in this life we're living aat the cost of the afterlife.

The point is that it wasn't the reformation that allowed critical thinking, it was secularism.


Edit: found the real thing. It's from the "POEM ON THE LISBON DISASTER; Or an Examination of the Axiom, “All is Well”":



http://app.libraryofliberty.org/?opt...html&Itemid=27

see above

[ardeegee]

Our day of reckoning has arrived!

http://news.google.com/news/search?p...=all&scoring=n

[Greg Anos]

Milkshake!!!!

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Our day of reckoning has arrived!

http://news.google.com/news/search?p...=all&scoring=n

I see only one problem with Boobquake, it may awake the sleeping underwater giant - TITZILLA!!! Run, run for the hills!

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by Moejoe

I see only one problem with Boobquake, it may awake the sleeping underwater giant - TITZILLA!!! Run, run for the hills!

Red and I will stand firm....

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Red and I will stand firm....

I will also stand with some firmness (and a general feeling of embarrassment. I am English after all )

[TGS]

Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward

Milkshake!!!!

...brings all the boys to the yard,
And they're like
It's better that yours
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge...

[Moejoe]

Originally Posted by TGS

...brings all the boys to the yard,
And they're like
It's better that yours
Damn right it's better than yours,
I can teach you,
But I have to charge...

We got free milk at school. I sense a terrible joke coming on, but I....must....resist....

[WT Sharpe]

Maybe the cleric got it right!

http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/04/26/...uake-backfire/

OPEN PLEA TO ALL CALIFORNIAN WOMEN:

Please, for the sake of the state, walk slowly and don't make any sudden movements!

[kennyc]

Originally Posted by ardeegee

Our day of reckoning has arrived!

http://news.google.com/news/search?p...=all&scoring=n

Love it!

[Greg Anos]

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Maybe the cleric got it right!

http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/04/26/...uake-backfire/

OPEN PLEA TO ALL CALIFORNIAN WOMEN:

Please, for the sake of the state, walk slowly and don't make any sudden movements!

Or come to Texas...We won't mind any shaking.....

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by Moejoe

I will also stand with some firmness (and a general feeling of embarrassment. I am English after all )

stiff upper-lip and all that .....

Originally Posted by WT Sharpe

Maybe the cleric got it right!

http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/04/26/...uake-backfire/

OPEN PLEA TO ALL CALIFORNIAN WOMEN:

Please, for the sake of the state, walk slowly and don't make any sudden movements!

wonder why nothing has been said about belly-dancing ..... (just sayin' just sayin')

[TGS]

Originally Posted by GeoffC

stiff upper-lip and all that .....

Never heard it called an "upper-lip" before...but there you go, we live and learn

[GeoffC]

Originally Posted by TGS

Never heard it called an "upper-lip" before...but there you go, we live and learn

From wikipedia ...

The phrase is most commonly heard as part of the idiom keep a stiff upper lip, and has traditionally been used to describe an attribute of (particularly upper middle and upper class) British people, who are sometimes perceived by other cultures as being reserved and brave.