Why I'll pass on the Honda Civic - Page 2

scottjl · 04-25-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trubu

Seems like it would be efficient to just add a "I don't like the iPad and here's why" section to your sig.

Sonist · 04-26-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Trubu

... But personally, when there's a product that I don't care for, I move on and keep looking for a product that I will like. You and others appear to have settled on a rather different course of action - posting the same repetitive complaints about something that you don't own and have no plans to purchase, ad infinitum. Seems like it would be efficient to just add a "I don't like the iPad and here's why" section to your sig.

To the original poster: win.

And to those confused about what a post about Hondas is doing here: LOL.

Gee,Trubu..., this is a forum, not a mutual admiration society. By the same token, if you don't like people discussing the the pros AND cons of things, then please move on and keep looking for posts you like.

For what it's worth, at least some of those complaining about the iPad did in fact plan to purchase it initially, then were disappointed by its shortcomings and said why. And then others said that these are not shortcomings, and a discussion ensued. And this is generally how forums work.

Again, if you don't like it, take your own advice and move on.

Cheers.

P.S. Some are oh so easily entertained....

lene1949 · 04-26-2010, 03:52 AM

I'm not even going to comment on this one... Well done!

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Originally Posted by Victoria

The Honda Civic is the worst truck I've ever seen.

You can't do any real work with it. Other trucks can move equipment, haul a load, plough a driveway, carry livestock. A civic can only transport one hog at a time - that's a real deal breaker for me

I want to be able to go camping with my truck.... With most trucks, you can roam the back country, ford streams, even pitch a tent in the back. Can't do that with a civic - damn Honda has locked down the frame

And don't even get me started on the sissy name. "Civic"! - it means "relating or belonging to a city". LOL!! What does that tell ya? Ha! Ha!

With all the missing features - I predict the civic wil be a one day wonder. Only 4 cylinders - compare that to a Dodge Ram. The fuel tank is only half the size of a Silverado. No pickup bed; no tailgate.

Sure - you can read in a civic, but only while sitting on the inside.

Yeah, I know Canadians buy more Honda civics than any other model. Sheep - let them drink their koolaid. If you ask me, the civic is really nothing more than a glorified compact. I'm hanging on to my money until a better truck comes along.

(no offence meant - just having a little fun )

scottjl · 04-26-2010, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndx

But thanks for the oh so refreshingly original opinion you've offered. I'll look forward to seeing the same original opinion from you, and others, being posted in almost very topic about the iPad.

Don'tcha know they have their freedom of speech to be on here and post the same dribble over and over? They have the right to be whiney, negative and an overall buzz-kill and to make sure everyone knows it in every thread. If you don't like it please go to Cult approved forums where their actions won't be tolerated. Thanksyouhaveaniceday!

dmaul1114 · 04-26-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Houndx

In reality, you'll find most who complain are vehemently anti-Apple and are the type of person who wouldn't have bought an iPad for $99 even if it laid an 8 ounce golden egg every nightbwhile you sleep.

That was true the first couple of weeks--lots of trolls who just hate apple.

But from what I've seen since, that's mostly stopped, so unless I missed something (haven't been around much since I decided not to buy one) I don't see it being a problem any more.

Most of the "complaints" have been people like me or Sonist who want a tablet, were VERY excited about the iPad, but let down for various reasons after using it and have decided not to buy it.

Granted, I'm not posting here much anymore as I have no intention to buy an iPad unless Apple makes big changes to their philosophy and puts a file system, drag and drop etc (which isn't going to happen)--and I do think the device area forums should be for owners to discuss their devices and answer questions for people interested in the device.

But this is a good site for info, so I'll check in every once in a while and see what apps are rolling out, if they're fixing any of my gripes in OS updates or the 2nd gen ipad etc.

But I haven't seen any outright trolling in a while--where as it was very annoying even to me the first couple of weeks after launch.

I do get the annoyance from people expecting it to be a full Tablet PC and complaining that it isn't. But I think most of those have left. I don't want a tablet PC, I just need a file management system, and easier way to get documents on the device and accessible to every app that can use them etc. I'll always have a laptop, so I don't need my tablet to be a PC.

And I think Sonist is the same on that front, since he's posting a lot about Android tablets which will also not be full PCs obviously.

So I think most of the ongoing criticisms are pretty reasonable and not from trolls, or people wanting the iPad to be something it's not etc. as most of the criticisms I've seen lately are just minor tweaks--file system, bigger screen, less restrictive apps store review by apple etc.

leebase · 04-26-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonist

Gee,Trubu..., this is a forum, not a mutual admiration society. By the same token, if you don't like people discussing the the pros AND cons of things, then please move on and keep looking for posts you like.

That's not all that's going on and you know it. And surely, your own words apply to you. If you don't like people not liking other people's posts, then move on. But you haven't, and neither should we.

There is a far cry from desiring a "mutual admiration society" -- and desiring a place where people discuss the merits in a way beneficial to all.

Lee

Sischa · 04-26-2010, 10:21 AM

*yawn*

Its so boring these days seeing all the Fanboy vs. Hater discussion.

I have my iPad since yesterday and to feed the haters:
"no its not the holy grale and lack of flash support sucks"

and for all the Fanboys
"it is a cute, shiny piece of hightech i already loved before it was turned on"

Why not letting people post why they don't like the iPad? For me it was interesting to see the last weeks what people like/dislike and make my own opinion.

On the other hand it was also very interesting to see why people like the idea of the iPad and to read the advantages,

It would really suck to make this opinion by reading a 100% fanboy forum so
pls stop whining about the so called "haters".

At least for me it was much more interesting to read both side of the stories then reading "fight the unholy and evil flash" threads

I made my decision to get an iPad with reading both, the haters and the fanboys and i am happy that this forum i not 100% applemaniac

Sorry for the OT ... back tho the Honda Civic pls

scottjl · 04-26-2010, 10:31 AM

no. the outright trolling and bashing has gone down. but as houndx pointed out there doesn't seem to be a single thread where a few individuals don't pop in and feel the need to voice their same complaints about the ipad and how they won't buy one. a quick search shows 50 threads where one individual posts repeated remarks complaining about the same issues and why they were disappointed and are waiting for the holy tablet which will be the best thing in the world, until something better comes out.

dmaul1114, you're a reasonable individual, you posted up your disappointment, your hopes for the next iteration, and moved on. i guess that's the problem some people have, they can't move on. maybe it's some form of obsessive compulsive disorder, or maybe they're just whiners looking for attention.

i did like trubu's idea. certainly would save a lot of time. don't even have to copy and paste the same rants over and over. set up sig once and done. i was trying to think up some catchy phrases for my .sig so i can go post over in the other forums.. what do people think of these..?

eink, so much fun to read in the dark!

kindle, read along with big brother (unless revoked)!

sony, you can touch our screens, you just can't read them!

Houndx · 04-26-2010, 11:20 AM

I, for one, would enjoy a reasoned discussion on the device's shortcomings. But that discussion would certainly be disrupted by those who have an irrational dislike of it. The most common complaints from non owners are things that will be resolved when a jailbreak is available. Owners, however, could offer real insights about how the ipads, and tablets in general, could be improved.

One problem that I feel needs to be addressed is rotation. Autorotate looks cool when the device is being demoed but, in real use, I find that it's a feature I just end up having to work around. Most apps I either want to use in landscape or portrait, not both. So I end up keeping rotation locked to keep the screen from.flipping around constantly then turning it on to switch and then turning it right back off again. I'd really like to see the ability to set each app's orientation.

CyGuy · 04-26-2010, 01:19 PM

Your analogy is not really accurate. Maybe this is closer: The Honda Civic is really a very nice vehicle, has some nice features, and gets great mileage. This price was a bit on the high side but not too bad. The reason I am passing on the Civic is because it does not come with a radio, air conditioning, or heater. I might be willing to work around these shortcomings if I could install aftermarket parts. However, the cars hardware is locked and I cannot install a radio, or A/C and heater. The car does get you from point A to point B with no problems, but having a radio and A/C and heater are just must have items for me. I know many will think these are optional components and will be perfectly fine without them. I am waiting for a car with some of the same features as the Civic but with all of the missing must-have items.

Sonist · 04-26-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scottjl

no. the outright trolling and bashing has gone down. but as houndx pointed out there doesn't seem to be a single thread where a few individuals don't pop in and feel the need to voice their same complaints about the ipad and how they won't buy one. a quick search shows 50 threads where one individual posts repeated remarks complaining....

Scottjl, funny how you pop up in every thread, saying the same things, either dmanding that others leave the forum, or swearing this is your last post in this place of "hate"....

Lighten up a little. This thread started as a joke, remember.

CyGuy · 04-26-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CyGuy

Your analogy is not really accurate. Maybe this is closer: The Honda Civic is really a very nice vehicle, has some nice features, and gets great mileage. This price was a bit on the high side but not too bad. The reason I am passing on the Civic is because it does not come with a radio, air conditioning, or heater. I might be willing to work around these shortcomings if I could install aftermarket parts. However, the cars hardware is locked and I cannot install a radio, or A/C and heater. The car does get you from point A to point B with no problems, but having a radio and A/C and heater are just must have items for me. I know many will think these are optional components and will be perfectly fine without them. I am waiting for a car with some of the same features as the Civic but with all of the missing must-have items.

One more thing that really bothers me about the Civic is that I have to get oil changes from the dealer only, they locked the drainplug. I also have to purchase tires at the dealer only, they locked the lugnuts.

holterzoff · 04-26-2010, 02:10 PM

every joke gets stale if told twice, pardon three times.....
it's hard to be original, you can ask my cousin sonist.

scottjl · 04-26-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonist

Scottjl, funny how you pop up in every thread, saying the same things, either dmanding that others leave the forum, or swearing this is your last post in this place of "hate"....

Lighten up a little. This thread started as a joke, remember.

Sorry. Was my post directed at you specifically? I don't recall me quoting you, "demanding" that anyone leave the forum or making any statements that any post is my last.

I know you have a hard time doing so, but please stick to facts and not fiction.

Fotoman · 04-26-2010, 03:09 PM

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet... Honda has a truck and it's called the Ridgeline.

I drive one to and from my igloo. It's main job is to get me and my iPad to wherever we're going.

I do wish it cornered better and parked itself though...oh well, it'll do for now.

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04-26-2010, 10:21 AM	#22
Sischa Evangelist Posts: 428 Karma: 2370 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Device: Nokia 770, Ilead, Cybook G3, Kindle DX, Kindle 2, iPad, Kindle 3, PW	yawn Its so boring these days seeing all the Fanboy vs. Hater discussion. I have my iPad since yesterday and to feed the haters: "no its not the holy grale and lack of flash support sucks" and for all the Fanboys "it is a cute, shiny piece of hightech i already loved before it was turned on" Why not letting people post why they don't like the iPad? For me it was interesting to see the last weeks what people like/dislike and make my own opinion. On the other hand it was also very interesting to see why people like the idea of the iPad and to read the advantages, It would really suck to make this opinion by reading a 100% fanboy forum so pls stop whining about the so called "haters". At least for me it was much more interesting to read both side of the stories then reading "fight the unholy and evil flash" threads I made my decision to get an iPad with reading both, the haters and the fanboys and i am happy that this forum i not 100% applemaniac Sorry for the OT ... back tho the Honda Civic pls

04-26-2010, 10:31 AM	#23
scottjl Reader of Books Posts: 1,632 Karma: 2697 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	no. the outright trolling and bashing has gone down. but as houndx pointed out there doesn't seem to be a single thread where a few individuals don't pop in and feel the need to voice their same complaints about the ipad and how they won't buy one. a quick search shows 50 threads where one individual posts repeated remarks complaining about the same issues and why they were disappointed and are waiting for the holy tablet which will be the best thing in the world, until something better comes out. dmaul1114, you're a reasonable individual, you posted up your disappointment, your hopes for the next iteration, and moved on. i guess that's the problem some people have, they can't move on. maybe it's some form of obsessive compulsive disorder, or maybe they're just whiners looking for attention. i did like trubu's idea. certainly would save a lot of time. don't even have to copy and paste the same rants over and over. set up sig once and done. i was trying to think up some catchy phrases for my .sig so i can go post over in the other forums.. what do people think of these..? eink, so much fun to read in the dark! kindle, read along with big brother (unless revoked)! sony, you can touch our screens, you just can't read them!

04-26-2010, 11:20 AM	#24
Houndx Groupie Posts: 159 Karma: 149 Join Date: Jul 2009 Device: A81 MID, Dell Streak	I, for one, would enjoy a reasoned discussion on the device's shortcomings. But that discussion would certainly be disrupted by those who have an irrational dislike of it. The most common complaints from non owners are things that will be resolved when a jailbreak is available. Owners, however, could offer real insights about how the ipads, and tablets in general, could be improved. One problem that I feel needs to be addressed is rotation. Autorotate looks cool when the device is being demoed but, in real use, I find that it's a feature I just end up having to work around. Most apps I either want to use in landscape or portrait, not both. So I end up keeping rotation locked to keep the screen from.flipping around constantly then turning it on to switch and then turning it right back off again. I'd really like to see the ability to set each app's orientation.

04-26-2010, 01:19 PM	#25
CyGuy Avid Reader Posts: 769 Karma: 7777778 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: PocketBook 902, Galaxy Tab 2 7.0, ASUS TF700, and Cybook Gen III	Your analogy is not really accurate. Maybe this is closer: The Honda Civic is really a very nice vehicle, has some nice features, and gets great mileage. This price was a bit on the high side but not too bad. The reason I am passing on the Civic is because it does not come with a radio, air conditioning, or heater. I might be willing to work around these shortcomings if I could install aftermarket parts. However, the cars hardware is locked and I cannot install a radio, or A/C and heater. The car does get you from point A to point B with no problems, but having a radio and A/C and heater are just must have items for me. I know many will think these are optional components and will be perfectly fine without them. I am waiting for a car with some of the same features as the Civic but with all of the missing must-have items.

04-26-2010, 02:10 PM	#28
holterzoff Connoisseur Posts: 67 Karma: 3052 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: cologne Device: kindle3w, Ipad, iphone4	every joke gets stale if told twice, pardon three times..... it's hard to be original, you can ask my cousin sonist.

04-26-2010, 03:09 PM	#30
Fotoman Groupie Posts: 157 Karma: 2160 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Device: iPad 64GB wifi (Sony 505 RIP)	I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet... Honda has a truck and it's called the Ridgeline. I drive one to and from my igloo. It's main job is to get me and my iPad to wherever we're going. I do wish it cornered better and parked itself though...oh well, it'll do for now.