How will the new agency rules affect you? - Page 2

GraceKrispy · 04-10-2010, 08:55 PM

I get virtually all my pbooks from the library, and I get many, many of my ebooks the same way. The other ebooks I get through free or very discounted deals. I donʻt purchase new releases, I rarely pay more than $3 or so per ebook. So I donʻt feel like it would really affect me too much. If the price goes much above that, I probably wonʻt purchase. Iʻm not averse to just checking out a pbook for a "must have read" if I canʻt get the eversion for minimal or no cost. I was never a book buyer before, so that hasnʻt changed too much.

Tim32127 · 04-10-2010, 09:39 PM

I'll spend more because now more of the books I want will be released by the publisher. Unlike alot of members that like to complain, and then admit They never bought the hardcover anyway. I did buy alot of hardcovers and I'll be happy to pay 15.00 for the ebook if it's released with the hardcover. I have and will continue the buy Tor books because they have alot of books I want to read.
Tim..

Skydog · 04-10-2010, 09:59 PM

The model will not affect me as much as it will affect the publishers. I will not be buying at the higher prices which means I will be purchasing fewer books.

astra · 04-14-2010, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

It changes nothing for me. I won't pay more than the cheapest print version for an e-book

Ditto.

roger the rabbit · 04-14-2010, 04:47 AM

No change for me, I will continue to vote with my wallet.

I will buy the most reasonably priced ebook where it is not more than the cheapest pbook version. (Assuming geo restrictions do not prevent me from buying). Otherwise I will obtain what I want by whatever means possible e.g used, library, borrow or whatever.

I have no intention in helping them to impose restrictive practices on me.

jes1 · 04-14-2010, 10:46 PM

I'll be supporting Baen, Smashwords, Closed Circle, A Writer's Work.. is never done, Samhain, Harlequin and other ebook reader friendly sites more. I am looking at this as a challenge to search out interesting, less known authors and supporting them more directly.

Rich_D · 04-14-2010, 10:57 PM

I'm paying for the content, not the medium. For the releases I really want, I'll pay whatever price is posted the day it's released. Most other books I'll try and get from the library. That's the way I purchased books before ebooks, so that's how I'll do it now.

shadowcat1017 · 04-15-2010, 12:42 AM

I voted "Pay higher prices for most books but lower prices for some" because, while I agree with many people here that this new pricing structure will mean I'll be buying far fewer ebooks, those ebooks that I do buy will probably cost me more than what they used to cost me, especially because I've been buying almost exclusively from Fictionwise, and what with the Buywise club (now gone) and the micropay rebates (also gone on any big 5 books), I was probably paying between $3-4 per ebook (for something currently out in paperback). Based on what I've been seeing, it looks like that cost is likely to go up to $5-7 per ebook. I could be wrong, but that seems to be the general trend on Amazon, B&N.com, and Sony's Reader store. I'll be interested to see how everything ends up shaking down, but I think it's going to be a year or more before we really get to anything approaching a fair pricing system.

riemann42 · 04-15-2010, 02:06 AM

As Fictionwise has been gutted, I don't know for sure and have no good way of comparing what prices were before and are now.

I guess I will be buying fewer books without Micropay burning a hole in my pocket.

In the end, I hope to see back catalog works get cheaper, which, for me, are about 80% of by wish list. We'll see.

I'll vote with my wallet like everyone else. I have already bought a couple of $12.99 books, because I wanted them and can't stand hardback books anymore. Hardback books remind me of my daughter's board books. What, are the publishers afraid I am going to chew on the new Jim Butcher novel*?

*I have chew marks on the corner of my nook, from my cat.

riemann42 · 04-15-2010, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowcat1017

I was probably paying between $3-4 per ebook (for something currently out in paperback). Based on what I've been seeing, it looks like that cost is likely to go up to $5-7 per ebook.

After fictionwise's end of the year sale, everything seems expensive now!

shadowcat1017 · 04-15-2010, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riemann42

As Fictionwise has been gutted, I don't know for sure and have no good way of comparing what prices were before and are now.

I guess I will be buying fewer books without Micropay burning a hole in my pocket.

I'm pretty sure of my before figures because I used to watch how much I was spending per book with each purchase, and if it was too high, I'd reconsider my purchases, but my before figure and someone else's can certainly vary due to an individual's tendency to buy hardback priced ebooks, Buywise membership, and Micropay sales, so that's not a hard and fast number for everyone. I tried to make the best use of the discounts available to me to get the most bang for my buck. As for the after prices, I'm not sure what Fictionwise's prices are going to be like if/when they recover from this fiasco. The $5-7 figure is a guess based on what the prices are like at the Kindle store and at B&N.com. Without some kind of discount program like the Buywise club and/or the Micropay accounts, there's nothing to help lower your cost per book from what's mandated by the publishers. I am SO going to miss Micropay - that's probably the number one feature that has kept me so loyal to Fictionwise over the past 6 years.

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Originally Posted by riemann42

I'll vote with my wallet like everyone else. I have already bought a couple of $12.99 books, because I wanted them and can't stand hardback books anymore.

I don't necessarily mind paying $12.99 for a book if it's only out in hardback now and I absolutely can't wait for it, but what pisses me off beyond belief is when an ebook is selling for $14.00 when it's available in paperback for $7.99. (And that's a specific example based on a handful of books from my old wishlist.) I'll go so far as to say I can't stand hard copy books of any kind anymore - hardback, trade paper, mass market, they all take up waaaay too much space. Once I went electronic, there was no going back!

Quote:

Originally Posted by riemann42

*I have chew marks on the corner of my nook, from my cat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by riemann42

After fictionwise's end of the year sale, everything seems expensive now!

Tell me about it!

staticradar · 04-15-2010, 04:47 AM

I'll be paying a bit more because now I won't have Kobo's $2-4 off coupons anymore

Though I'm stocking up on the giftcards at target for the Sony Ebook store and asking for them as gifts since they are so cheap...$15 for $25 so I may actually end up spending less lol

GeoffC · 04-15-2010, 04:52 AM

i'll wait and see .... i tend to be moving away from the more well known authors (largely 'cause they seem more likely geo-restricted).

at this rate it'll end up cheaper buying a pbook (un-restricted geo) and scanning it !!!!

lioslaith · 04-18-2010, 07:29 AM

I will be continuing with my standard practice of the past few months. Buying from the smaller independent presses like Samhain. I've been trying out newer less known authors of late and buying direct from the publishers to support them more directly. I started doing this when geographic restrictions began creeping up in more and more of the mainstream authors I previously read.

I tend now to buy from the smaller presses and the only mainstream one I frequent is the Harlequin site in the US as I have no problems buying direct from them even though I live in the UK and they sell in my preferred ePub format. Not preferred out of all formats but displays on my Sony Reader better than a DRM pdf file.

Geographic Restrictions altered my buying habits and these new 'rules' will just re-enforce my new buying habits. The only ones I feel sorry for are the mainstream authors whose pocketbook will be hit by these new regulations. I can see it stopping more readers buying their ebooks and as such affect their royalties.

I know you can buy paperback/hardback instead but I think many are like me and have no physical room for these books. My space restrictions is what sent me down the ebook path last year as I simply have no room for physical books.

A lot of my wishlist books have also disappeared from both Fictionwise and BoB. So I'm not really impressed at the moment with mainstream publishers, but I think this will prove a boon for the smaller publishing houses and their authors. I won't stop buying ebooks but I will be spending my meagre pennies on other publishers, I'll miss the authors whose books I love but eventually they'll turn up on sale in Tesco's or Asda's and I'll catch them there if I really want to.

View Poll Results: Under the new agency rules I will...
Pay higher prices for most books.	13	32.50%
Pay lower prices for most books.	5	12.50%
Pay higher prices for some books but lower prices for most.	4	10.00%
Pay higher prices for most books but lower prices for some.	18	45.00%
Voters: 40. You may not vote on this poll

04-15-2010, 02:06 AM	#24
riemann42 Zealot Posts: 121 Karma: 506 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Device: eSlick,nook	As Fictionwise has been gutted, I don't know for sure and have no good way of comparing what prices were before and are now. I guess I will be buying fewer books without Micropay burning a hole in my pocket. In the end, I hope to see back catalog works get cheaper, which, for me, are about 80% of by wish list. We'll see. I'll vote with my wallet like everyone else. I have already bought a couple of $12.99 books, because I wanted them and can't stand hardback books anymore. Hardback books remind me of my daughter's board books. What, are the publishers afraid I am going to chew on the new Jim Butcher novel? I have chew marks on the corner of my nook, from my cat. Last edited by riemann42; 04-15-2010 at 02:07 AM. Reason: daughter's has an apostrophe.

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04-10-2010, 08:55 PM	#16
GraceKrispy It's Dr. Penguin now! Posts: 3,909 Karma: 4705733 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: (USA) Device: iPad mini, Samsung Note 3, Sony PRS-650 (rarely used now)	I get virtually all my pbooks from the library, and I get many, many of my ebooks the same way. The other ebooks I get through free or very discounted deals. I donʻt purchase new releases, I rarely pay more than $3 or so per ebook. So I donʻt feel like it would really affect me too much. If the price goes much above that, I probably wonʻt purchase. Iʻm not averse to just checking out a pbook for a "must have read" if I canʻt get the eversion for minimal or no cost. I was never a book buyer before, so that hasnʻt changed too much.

04-10-2010, 09:39 PM	#17
Tim32127 Member Posts: 22 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Sony 505	I'll spend more because now more of the books I want will be released by the publisher. Unlike alot of members that like to complain, and then admit They never bought the hardcover anyway. I did buy alot of hardcovers and I'll be happy to pay 15.00 for the ebook if it's released with the hardcover. I have and will continue the buy Tor books because they have alot of books I want to read. Tim..

04-10-2010, 09:59 PM	#18
Skydog Wizard Posts: 2,286 Karma: 7409537 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Circling Earth @ Mach .83 Device: Elipsa 2E, Sage, Libra Colour, Libra 2, Clara 2E, Oasis3, Voyage	The model will not affect me as much as it will affect the publishers. I will not be buying at the higher prices which means I will be purchasing fewer books.

04-14-2010, 04:47 AM	#20
roger the rabbit Addict Posts: 316 Karma: 10215 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever I lay my hat! Device: Sony PRS-T3, 650 Black, 505, Kobo Glo HD Aura ONE	No change for me, I will continue to vote with my wallet. I will buy the most reasonably priced ebook where it is not more than the cheapest pbook version. (Assuming geo restrictions do not prevent me from buying). Otherwise I will obtain what I want by whatever means possible e.g used, library, borrow or whatever. I have no intention in helping them to impose restrictive practices on me.

04-14-2010, 10:46 PM	#21
jes1 Zealot Posts: 139 Karma: 698 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Device: Astak EZReader, Dell Axim x50v, iPod Touch, nook	I'll be supporting Baen, Smashwords, Closed Circle, A Writer's Work.. is never done, Samhain, Harlequin and other ebook reader friendly sites more. I am looking at this as a challenge to search out interesting, less known authors and supporting them more directly.

04-14-2010, 10:57 PM	#22
Rich_D Fanatic Posts: 581 Karma: 1314896 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA USA Device: Android phone, Kobo Glo HD, nook ST with Glo (backup)	I'm paying for the content, not the medium. For the releases I really want, I'll pay whatever price is posted the day it's released. Most other books I'll try and get from the library. That's the way I purchased books before ebooks, so that's how I'll do it now.

04-15-2010, 12:42 AM	#23
shadowcat1017 Gadget Geek Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kentucky Device: Palm Pre (pReader app)	I voted "Pay higher prices for most books but lower prices for some" because, while I agree with many people here that this new pricing structure will mean I'll be buying far fewer ebooks, those ebooks that I do buy will probably cost me more than what they used to cost me, especially because I've been buying almost exclusively from Fictionwise, and what with the Buywise club (now gone) and the micropay rebates (also gone on any big 5 books), I was probably paying between $3-4 per ebook (for something currently out in paperback). Based on what I've been seeing, it looks like that cost is likely to go up to $5-7 per ebook. I could be wrong, but that seems to be the general trend on Amazon, B&N.com, and Sony's Reader store. I'll be interested to see how everything ends up shaking down, but I think it's going to be a year or more before we really get to anything approaching a fair pricing system.

04-15-2010, 04:47 AM	#27
staticradar Member Posts: 19 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-505	I'll be paying a bit more because now I won't have Kobo's $2-4 off coupons anymore Though I'm stocking up on the giftcards at target for the Sony Ebook store and asking for them as gifts since they are so cheap...$15 for $25 so I may actually end up spending less lol

04-15-2010, 04:52 AM	#28
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	i'll wait and see .... i tend to be moving away from the more well known authors (largely 'cause they seem more likely geo-restricted). at this rate it'll end up cheaper buying a pbook (un-restricted geo) and scanning it !!!!

04-18-2010, 07:29 AM	#29
lioslaith Zealot Posts: 145 Karma: 1000000 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Scotland, UK Device: Sony 505, Kindle, Kobo Vox/Glo, Nook	I will be continuing with my standard practice of the past few months. Buying from the smaller independent presses like Samhain. I've been trying out newer less known authors of late and buying direct from the publishers to support them more directly. I started doing this when geographic restrictions began creeping up in more and more of the mainstream authors I previously read. I tend now to buy from the smaller presses and the only mainstream one I frequent is the Harlequin site in the US as I have no problems buying direct from them even though I live in the UK and they sell in my preferred ePub format. Not preferred out of all formats but displays on my Sony Reader better than a DRM pdf file. Geographic Restrictions altered my buying habits and these new 'rules' will just re-enforce my new buying habits. The only ones I feel sorry for are the mainstream authors whose pocketbook will be hit by these new regulations. I can see it stopping more readers buying their ebooks and as such affect their royalties. I know you can buy paperback/hardback instead but I think many are like me and have no physical room for these books. My space restrictions is what sent me down the ebook path last year as I simply have no room for physical books. A lot of my wishlist books have also disappeared from both Fictionwise and BoB. So I'm not really impressed at the moment with mainstream publishers, but I think this will prove a boon for the smaller publishing houses and their authors. I won't stop buying ebooks but I will be spending my meagre pennies on other publishers, I'll miss the authors whose books I love but eventually they'll turn up on sale in Tesco's or Asda's and I'll catch them there if I really want to.