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GPLarge · 04-05-2010, 01:57 PM

Ok i am in the market to get an ebook. I have it narrowed down to the Nook and the kindle. Both have good and bad points. My only use will be to read books but want an ebook as alot of my travels will be in an RV. I love the design of the Nook and think B&N nailed it there. I use an Android phone so I am familiar with th lag issues. The dictionary look up on the Kindle is much better but I think that can be fixed with an update. I read a lot of fiction some of them longer books ( "Under the Dome" to example. Has the gradually increasing lag timethe farther you get in the book been resolved with 1.2?

GPLarge · 04-05-2010, 06:11 PM

Well I'm getting pushed closer to the Nook. After going to 2 different B&N stores today and asking similar questions it seems that for now if you have an issue with it after the initial 14 days you can call customer service for an RMA# you bring that with your original receipt to any B&N store and they will replace it. Just need to make sure you have back ups of any non B&N purchased content.

pilotbob · 04-05-2010, 06:14 PM

Sounds like you've made your decision. Go for it.

BOb

bleugh · 04-05-2010, 07:36 PM

The 'swipe' function's great.......and pushes the nook over the kindle for me

Being able to sit (or lie down) in total silence and change pages without a 'click' from the buttons every time......it's surprising how useful that is!

bgalbrecht · 04-05-2010, 10:35 PM

I have Under the Dome (eReader) and it doesn't have any lag when changing pages at the end of the book. I have not seen any great lag with large ePub files either. I recall someone reporting lag with ePubs on the Nook which had been converted to ePub from another format with Calibre. S/he discovered that the Calibre conversion settings got set wrong. After resetting the conversion settings to the defaults, the lag went away.

My biggest issue with the Nook is that the B&N "my library" app is deliberately designed to favor books bought from B&N, and doesn't support searches, sort by recently read books or show covers on sideloaded materials. I'm not sure I would have purchased the Nook if I couldn't root it. The softrooted nook gives you a web browser, a file browser, and a "my books" app that gives better search capabilities than the B&N one.

I prefer to change pages with the swipe also.

rmettier · 04-06-2010, 05:30 AM

Just finished the 1100+ page 'Atlas Shrugged' on my nook (I don't recommend the book, btw, Rands philosophy is painfully obvious throughout), and didn't notice any increasing lag towards the end of the book.

rooted 1.2 here.

However, here's a little detail I found to be a very convincing advantage of the open system of the nook, vs. the kindle: I have big hands and I usually read holding the nook in my right hand. This puts my thumb right on the 'page back' button on the right side of the device. Obviously, have the 'page forward' button there would be better, so...I simply changed it. Pulled the key layout file from the nook to my desktop, edited it and sent it back. Try doing that with a kindle.
As I said, this is a tiny detail, but it nicely illustrates the advantage of an open system.

tuomas · 04-06-2010, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rmettier

SNIP

rooted 1.2 here.

However, here's a little detail I found to be a very convincing advantage of the open system of the nook, vs. the kindle: I have big hands and I usually read holding the nook in my right hand. This puts my thumb right on the 'page back' button on the right side of the device. Obviously, have the 'page forward' button there would be better, so...I simply changed it. Pulled the key layout file from the nook to my desktop, edited it and sent it back. Try doing that with a kindle.
As I said, this is a tiny detail, but it nicely illustrates the advantage of an open system.

Hey, that's great! Does the nook need to be rooted to do this? Can you give us more details on how to do this? I'd also like to remap the page turn keys. Thanks!

Goshzilla · 04-06-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bgalbrecht

I have Under the Dome (eReader) and it doesn't have any lag when changing pages at the end of the book. I have not seen any great lag with large ePub files either. I recall someone reporting lag with ePubs on the Nook which had been converted to ePub from another format with Calibre. S/he discovered that the Calibre conversion settings got set wrong. After resetting the conversion settings to the defaults, the lag went away.

Are there any webpages that contain the optimum settings for epubs that can be read on the Nook? I wonder how much a factor the internal file structure of an epub document, and the settings play into the performance on the device.

bleugh · 04-07-2010, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goshzilla

Are there any webpages that contain the optimum settings for epubs that can be read on the Nook? I wonder how much a factor the internal file structure of an epub document, and the settings play into the performance on the device.

I've read a few books on my nook now, PDF converted to epub, new epubs and news sites to epub
all of 'em read fine, page turn fine, just seem to be ok, haven't had any performance issues other than a lockup or two when buggering about with the thing.

rmettier · 04-07-2010, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuomas

Hey, that's great! Does the nook need to be rooted to do this? Can you give us more details on how to do this? I'd also like to remap the page turn keys. Thanks!

http://nookdevs.com/Button_mappings

Yes, I think it only works on rooted devices (you need adb access), but then again, why would you NOT root your nook, seeing as the process is so simple and the advantages so numerous?

tuomas · 04-07-2010, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmettier

http://nookdevs.com/Button_mappings

Yes, I think it only works on rooted devices (you need adb access), but then again, why would you NOT root your nook, seeing as the process is so simple and the advantages so numerous?

Thanks! I've got my nook charging now to top it off so I can begin the rooting process!

Rich_D · 04-07-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rmettier

http://nookdevs.com/Button_mappings

Yes, I think it only works on rooted devices (you need adb access), but then again, why would you NOT root your nook, seeing as the process is so simple and the advantages so numerous?

CUBA! TAKE ME TO CUBA!!

My apologies to the original poster for hijacking this thread.

I will be purchasing a nook within a month. Won't rooting the nook void the warranty? I saw two types a "hard" root and a "soft" root, if you just do the root with the SD card, can you then unroot it if there's an issue?

bgalbrecht · 04-07-2010, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich_D

CUBA! TAKE ME TO CUBA!!

My apologies to the original poster for hijacking this thread.

I will be purchasing a nook within a month. Won't rooting the nook void the warranty? I saw two types a "hard" root and a "soft" root, if you just do the root with the SD card, can you then unroot it if there's an issue?

The soft root, which just about everyone does, basically just changes the configuration so that you can add additional packages, no modifications to the hardware at all. You can reinstall the 1.0 version of the Nook software and it will automatically reinstall the latest B&N version of the software.

Rich_D · 04-07-2010, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgalbrecht

The soft root, which just about everyone does, basically just changes the configuration so that you can add additional packages, no modifications to the hardware at all. You can reinstall the 1.0 version of the Nook software and it will automatically reinstall the latest B&N version of the software.

Excellent! Thanks for the tip!

allen.gotwald · 01-01-2011, 12:54 PM

OK. So I bought the NC this week. Tech savy folks who discovered ebooks during the past few years likely built their librarys with Sony's BBeB (LRF) or EPUB. The two greatest downloads I have found are Calibre (for converting non DRM BBeB) and the adobe ereader (which has allowed me to load my existing epub books onto my Nook Color. Sony (to their enormous credit) allows readers who originally purchased books in secure BBeB to re-download them in epub. Then, using the adobe reader I can load the files onto my NC. I owned a Sony 505 for 3.5 years and still love it and intend to still use it when necessary. But, I am happy with the NC.

04-05-2010, 01:57 PM	#1
GPLarge Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: B&N Nook	convince me Ok i am in the market to get an ebook. I have it narrowed down to the Nook and the kindle. Both have good and bad points. My only use will be to read books but want an ebook as alot of my travels will be in an RV. I love the design of the Nook and think B&N nailed it there. I use an Android phone so I am familiar with th lag issues. The dictionary look up on the Kindle is much better but I think that can be fixed with an update. I read a lot of fiction some of them longer books ( "Under the Dome" to example. Has the gradually increasing lag timethe farther you get in the book been resolved with 1.2?

04-05-2010, 07:36 PM	#4
bleugh Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: nook	Nook!! The 'swipe' function's great.......and pushes the nook over the kindle for me Being able to sit (or lie down) in total silence and change pages without a 'click' from the buttons every time......it's surprising how useful that is!

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04-05-2010, 06:11 PM	#2
GPLarge Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: B&N Nook	Well I'm getting pushed closer to the Nook. After going to 2 different B&N stores today and asking similar questions it seems that for now if you have an issue with it after the initial 14 days you can call customer service for an RMA# you bring that with your original receipt to any B&N store and they will replace it. Just need to make sure you have back ups of any non B&N purchased content.

04-05-2010, 06:14 PM	#3
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	Sounds like you've made your decision. Go for it. BOb

04-05-2010, 10:35 PM	#5
bgalbrecht Wizard Posts: 1,806 Karma: 13399999 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: US Device: Nook Simple Touch, Kobo Glo HD, Kobo Clara HD, Kindle 4	I have Under the Dome (eReader) and it doesn't have any lag when changing pages at the end of the book. I have not seen any great lag with large ePub files either. I recall someone reporting lag with ePubs on the Nook which had been converted to ePub from another format with Calibre. S/he discovered that the Calibre conversion settings got set wrong. After resetting the conversion settings to the defaults, the lag went away. My biggest issue with the Nook is that the B&N "my library" app is deliberately designed to favor books bought from B&N, and doesn't support searches, sort by recently read books or show covers on sideloaded materials. I'm not sure I would have purchased the Nook if I couldn't root it. The softrooted nook gives you a web browser, a file browser, and a "my books" app that gives better search capabilities than the B&N one. I prefer to change pages with the swipe also.

04-06-2010, 05:30 AM	#6
rmettier Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: nook	Just finished the 1100+ page 'Atlas Shrugged' on my nook (I don't recommend the book, btw, Rands philosophy is painfully obvious throughout), and didn't notice any increasing lag towards the end of the book. rooted 1.2 here. However, here's a little detail I found to be a very convincing advantage of the open system of the nook, vs. the kindle: I have big hands and I usually read holding the nook in my right hand. This puts my thumb right on the 'page back' button on the right side of the device. Obviously, have the 'page forward' button there would be better, so...I simply changed it. Pulled the key layout file from the nook to my desktop, edited it and sent it back. Try doing that with a kindle. As I said, this is a tiny detail, but it nicely illustrates the advantage of an open system.

01-01-2011, 12:54 PM	#15
allen.gotwald Advocate Posts: 44 Karma: 34094 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ohio Device: SONY PRS-505 and Nook Color	OK. So I bought the NC this week. Tech savy folks who discovered ebooks during the past few years likely built their librarys with Sony's BBeB (LRF) or EPUB. The two greatest downloads I have found are Calibre (for converting non DRM BBeB) and the adobe ereader (which has allowed me to load my existing epub books onto my Nook Color. Sony (to their enormous credit) allows readers who originally purchased books in secure BBeB to re-download them in epub. Then, using the adobe reader I can load the files onto my NC. I owned a Sony 505 for 3.5 years and still love it and intend to still use it when necessary. But, I am happy with the NC.