Has the changeover happened yet?

ficbot · 04-01-2010, 01:49 AM

Some people were saying prices were up already earlier today. But there are still books on my Kobo list priced well over $15 and one of the books on my Kobo list is showing a price of $11.19 Canadian while it is over at Fictionwise for $13.95 for non-members ($11.86 for members). So clearly, not everything is standardized yet. I am just curious to hear reports from anybody on whether anything on their wish lists has gone up yet---or down. I am really hoping that some of the $20 ebooks come down as a result of this change and I am very curious to hear any evidence.

riemann42 · 04-01-2010, 01:52 AM

If it's on your FW list, then it is not by an affected publisher.

ficbot · 04-01-2010, 02:03 AM

Ah, good point. So how can we tell when it's happened? I am eying the $18 item on my Kobo wish list and hoping it goes down. The publishers promised to play fair with us after the switch and if they do not, and if they do not lower the prices for older books as they said, that will be a huge credibility issue for customers.

ATimson · 04-01-2010, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ficbot

The publishers promised to play fair with us after the switch and if they do not, and if they do not lower the prices for older books as they said, that will be a huge credibility issue for customers.

The publishers changing to the agency model made that claim. Anybody staying with the old model, like Random House, will probably continue their pricing the same as before.

mollybo · 04-01-2010, 08:33 AM

I noticed that a book I had bought a few days ago from Amazon, Souless, is now geographically restricted in the United States. I don't understand this at all - I already have the book, the second one is due out any day now, but now no one in the US can buy the first one? Huh? I enjoyed the book and am glad I grabbed it when I could.

Makes one one to resort to piracy just from sheer contrariness. What an insane scheme.

Tim32127 · 04-01-2010, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ficbot

Some people were saying prices were up already earlier today. But there are still books on my Kobo list priced well over $15 and one of the books on my Kobo list is showing a price of $11.19 Canadian while it is over at Fictionwise for $13.95 for non-members ($11.86 for members). So clearly, not everything is standardized yet. I am just curious to hear reports from anybody on whether anything on their wish lists has gone up yet---or down. I am really hoping that some of the $20 ebooks come down as a result of this change and I am very curious to hear any evidence.

All Robert Jordan and L E Modesitt books have come down in price today at Sony.
They did at Kobo also although they don't have as many books.
Tim

Skydog · 04-01-2010, 02:40 PM

The same is happening at Amazon (US). I scanned their NYT bestsellers looking for any changes and noticed that the popular Outliers has had the pricing info removed and now indicates it is not available in the U.S. Huh? There are others in this group as well.

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 02:43 PM

This issue is going to affect eBooks from

Macmillan
Simon & Schuster
Harper-Collins
Hachette
Penguin

DawnFalcon · 04-01-2010, 02:50 PM

As Kobo point out, it's going to affect more than that, since being unable to discount some books has a major negative impact on their ability to run promotions generally.

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

As Kobo point out, it's going to affect more than that, since being unable to discount some books has a major negative impact on their ability to run promotions generally.

I'm sure they will figure out how to give discounts on all the other publisher's eBooks.

ATimson · 04-01-2010, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm sure they will figure out how to give discounts on all the other publisher's eBooks.

Kobo said on their blog that they're not interested in doing that.

Quote:

We could still do it for non-agency titles, but then we end up in a weird situation of “Get $1 off, but only on these books, and definitely not on these other ones.” That’s not fun. And worse, it’s confusing to consumers.

lilac_jive · 04-01-2010, 03:13 PM

Sony mentioned that for a few days some titles would be unavailable due to the change, but would come back. Maybe that's what is happening?

JSWolf · 04-01-2010, 03:15 PM

Well, I hope Kobo doesn't stop doing discounts. That would hurt eBooks big time.

DawnFalcon · 04-01-2010, 03:21 PM

Ah, beaten to the blog link.

And you're only NOW realising this is bad for ebooks? No offence, but...

abookreader · 04-01-2010, 03:23 PM

Teleread is reporting that Amazon reached an agreement with Hatchett late last night but will not make the changeover to agency pricing until 4/3 which seems to be their go-live date for Agency pricing for a couple of other Pubs.

Hatchett had the option of granting a two day extension of the old contract or just not selling thru Amazon for the next two days.

http://www.teleread.org/2010/04/01/a...l-not-reached/

04-01-2010, 01:49 AM	#1
ficbot Wizard Posts: 2,409 Karma: 4132096 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Kindle Paperwhite/iOS Kindle App	Has the changeover happened yet? Some people were saying prices were up already earlier today. But there are still books on my Kobo list priced well over $15 and one of the books on my Kobo list is showing a price of $11.19 Canadian while it is over at Fictionwise for $13.95 for non-members ($11.86 for members). So clearly, not everything is standardized yet. I am just curious to hear reports from anybody on whether anything on their wish lists has gone up yet---or down. I am really hoping that some of the $20 ebooks come down as a result of this change and I am very curious to hear any evidence.

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04-01-2010, 01:52 AM	#2
riemann42 Zealot Posts: 121 Karma: 506 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Device: eSlick,nook	If it's on your FW list, then it is not by an affected publisher.

04-01-2010, 02:03 AM	#3
ficbot Wizard Posts: 2,409 Karma: 4132096 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Kindle Paperwhite/iOS Kindle App	Ah, good point. So how can we tell when it's happened? I am eying the $18 item on my Kobo wish list and hoping it goes down. The publishers promised to play fair with us after the switch and if they do not, and if they do not lower the prices for older books as they said, that will be a huge credibility issue for customers.

04-01-2010, 08:33 AM	#5
mollybo Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 2896 Join Date: Nov 2007 Device: Rocket eBook, Gemstar, and Kindle 3	I noticed that a book I had bought a few days ago from Amazon, Souless, is now geographically restricted in the United States. I don't understand this at all - I already have the book, the second one is due out any day now, but now no one in the US can buy the first one? Huh? I enjoyed the book and am glad I grabbed it when I could. Makes one one to resort to piracy just from sheer contrariness. What an insane scheme.

04-01-2010, 02:40 PM	#7
Skydog Wizard Posts: 2,286 Karma: 7409537 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Circling Earth @ Mach .83 Device: Elipsa 2E, Sage, Libra Colour, Libra 2, Clara 2E, Oasis3, Voyage	The same is happening at Amazon (US). I scanned their NYT bestsellers looking for any changes and noticed that the popular Outliers has had the pricing info removed and now indicates it is not available in the U.S. Huh? There are others in this group as well.

04-01-2010, 02:43 PM	#8
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,784 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	This issue is going to affect eBooks from Macmillan Simon & Schuster Harper-Collins Hachette Penguin

04-01-2010, 02:50 PM	#9
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	As Kobo point out, it's going to affect more than that, since being unable to discount some books has a major negative impact on their ability to run promotions generally.

04-01-2010, 03:13 PM	#12
lilac_jive Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,870 Karma: 27376 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Device: PRS-505	Sony mentioned that for a few days some titles would be unavailable due to the change, but would come back. Maybe that's what is happening?

04-01-2010, 03:15 PM	#13
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,784 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	Well, I hope Kobo doesn't stop doing discounts. That would hurt eBooks big time.

04-01-2010, 03:21 PM	#14
DawnFalcon Banned Posts: 2,094 Karma: 2682 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: N/A	Ah, beaten to the blog link. And you're only NOW realising this is bad for ebooks? No offence, but...

04-01-2010, 03:23 PM	#15
abookreader Wizard Posts: 1,516 Karma: 2567610 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: Kindles - Keyboard, Fire, 2-US, iPhone, iPAD	Teleread is reporting that Amazon reached an agreement with Hatchett late last night but will not make the changeover to agency pricing until 4/3 which seems to be their go-live date for Agency pricing for a couple of other Pubs. Hatchett had the option of granting a two day extension of the old contract or just not selling thru Amazon for the next two days. http://www.teleread.org/2010/04/01/a...l-not-reached/