Why should I keep this thing? - Page 6

kindlekitten · 03-14-2010, 02:20 PM

I think you have fun playing little miss bitch. I'm done with you unless you have something of value you'd like to bring to the thread?

pilotbob · 03-14-2010, 02:35 PM

OK folks... "banter is one thing" name calling an insults is something else... which we don't need here.

Let's play nice please.

BOb

kindlekitten · 03-14-2010, 02:44 PM

someone was into

, after of course trying to curb my speech. which I won't tolerate. see sig.

thinkpad · 03-14-2010, 02:57 PM

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2) It doesn't have page numbers for the books like everything else published in the last 5 centuries

My impression is that page numbers will be hard on any electronic device if your not sticking to a fixed size format. I mean how would you count the pages, you can't because it will vary from screen to screen given the size of it. For this to work you would need a PDF-document that would stay the same size on every device.

Oh, and by the way welcome to MR GalinAZ.

Ea · 03-14-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkpadx

My impression is that page numbers will be hard on any electronic device if your not sticking to a fixed size format. I mean how would you count the pages, you can't because it will vary from screen to screen given the size of it. For this to work you would need a PDF-document that would stay the same size on every device.

Here's an interesting blog post (short) about page number mapping in ADE EPUB.

Page numbers really don't make much sense in reflowable formats. Yet as a reader, I know it's nice to have some idea of both how long the book is, and where I am in the book - and there's as many implementations of these features as there's e-book readers. I've gotten used to Kindle's 'locations', but it was rather confusing at first and I still don't like it.

cmforums · 03-14-2010, 03:28 PM

You should'nt keep it...

kennyc · 03-14-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

....I've gotten used to Kindle's 'locations', but it was rather confusing at first and I still don't like it.

I hate it!

thinkpad · 03-14-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I've gotten used to Kindle's 'locations', but it was rather confusing at first and I still don't like it.

I've also gotten used to Kindle's indicator. Like you I find it less important to know the exact page I'm on. Needless to say I'm not using the Kindle for researching since it's not suited for the task.

Ea · 03-14-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

I hate it!

They're exactly such a thing that may make sense programamtically and logically (if you know the logic), but have no 'meaning' for a user. A 'page' that has some reference size-wise to a printed page is something that is more meaningful. But no-one seems to have come up with an alternative that really works for e-readers. Perhaps we should look all the way back to the scroll for a solution - I don't think they had page numbers either?

LCF · 03-14-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GalinAZ

I got a Kindle as a gift. Why should I keep this thing? Here's the list of issues I have with it:

1) I can't add library e-books to it.
2) It doesn't have page numbers for the books like everything else published in the last 5 centuries
3) It has a teeny tiny keyboard instead of a touch screen like half a million phones manage to have
4) I can't read PDF documents (not the way they look on a PC anyway)
5) It's not a reading device it's a Amazon e-book selling device
6) I've got a PC (4, in fact) and a BB. I don't NEED another wireless device.
7) Searching for a "free" e-book on Amazon is frustrating. I don't want to read romance or "undiscovered" authors or born-again.

I figure I can sell this thing on Craigslist and for $200 get enough used paperbacks to last me until they come out with something truly useful.

Please convince me otherwise.

I won't even try to. You obviously don't like your gift. Well, you don't have to, I've been told USA is a free country.
But someone tried to make you happy by buying you a Kindle.
If you dislike the Kindle, trade it for another reading device.
If you dislike ereaders - give it back to the person who gave it to you, and explain him/her that Kindle just isn't the right gift for you.
Selling the Kindle and then buying a bunch of other books or whatever... lets just say, that if I had given you a 260$ gift to find out you sold it and spent the money on [whatever] I would give you a backhanded slap and never look at you again.

lilman · 03-14-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LCF

If you dislike the Kindle, trade it for another reading device.
If you dislike ereaders - give it back to the person who gave it to you, and explain him/her that Kindle just isn't the right gift for you.
Selling the Kindle and then buying a bunch of other books or whatever... lets just say, that if I had given you a 260$ gift to find out you sold it and spent the money on [whatever] I would give you a backhanded slap and never look at you again.

^ It's as simple as that. Well spoken.

fugazied · 03-14-2010, 07:14 PM

It's not half as useless as you first thought but it's not half as good as some of the alternatives now hehe.

I think from the initial post some people thought he was a troll but he's not! Some strange people like to troll the forums of devices they don't like and flaunt their limitations.

IMO if you are upset by the limitations (some of your criticisms are justified and have to be 'hacked' to get around) I'd just sell it and wait for the new Kindle 3 to be released and see if it's better or look at alternatives (like iPad/Sony/Nook).

delphidb96 · 03-14-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

They're exactly such a thing that may make sense programamtically and logically (if you know the logic), but have no 'meaning' for a user. A 'page' that has some reference size-wise to a printed page is something that is more meaningful. But no-one seems to have come up with an alternative that really works for e-readers. Perhaps we should look all the way back to the scroll for a solution - I don't think they had page numbers either?

I find it interesting how you talk about 'manners', yet you have a link to your photography website which can't be reached by my machine because of all the malware (as found by MalwareBytes) on it. Seems to me that one should also have 'manners' enough to not load malware onto one's site, hmmm...

Derek

vaughnmr · 03-15-2010, 02:12 PM

pal, I think you have a problem with your "malwarebyte" software. I had no problem at all with her site. You must be getting false positives.

I do have a problem with her manners, lol.

GalinAZ · 03-15-2010, 11:26 PM

Thank you all for the guidance and points of view. I think I'll sell it and wait to see if future versions address some of the limitations.

I'm not comfortable doing illegal hacking, "free speech" issues aside. I would hope that e-books follow the path of music formats and come to some common format that can be shared across all platforms.

And by the way, I am a lady "Gal" in "AZ" (for Arizona).

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03-14-2010, 02:20 PM	#76
kindlekitten Professional Adventuress Posts: 13,368 Karma: 50260224 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Olympic Peninsula on the OTHER Washington! (the big green clean one on the west coast!) Device: Kindle, the original! Times Two! and gifting an International Kindle	I think you have fun playing little miss bitch. I'm done with you unless you have something of value you'd like to bring to the thread?

03-14-2010, 02:35 PM	#77
pilotbob Grand Sorcerer Posts: 19,832 Karma: 11844413 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tampa, FL USA Device: Kindle Touch	OK folks... "banter is one thing" name calling an insults is something else... which we don't need here. Let's play nice please. BOb

03-14-2010, 02:44 PM	#78
kindlekitten Professional Adventuress Posts: 13,368 Karma: 50260224 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Olympic Peninsula on the OTHER Washington! (the big green clean one on the west coast!) Device: Kindle, the original! Times Two! and gifting an International Kindle	someone was into , after of course trying to curb my speech. which I won't tolerate. see sig.

03-14-2010, 03:28 PM	#81
cmforums Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: none	You should'nt keep it...

03-14-2010, 07:14 PM	#87
fugazied Wizard Posts: 1,305 Karma: 1958 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: iPod Touch	It's not half as useless as you first thought but it's not half as good as some of the alternatives now hehe. I think from the initial post some people thought he was a troll but he's not! Some strange people like to troll the forums of devices they don't like and flaunt their limitations. IMO if you are upset by the limitations (some of your criticisms are justified and have to be 'hacked' to get around) I'd just sell it and wait for the new Kindle 3 to be released and see if it's better or look at alternatives (like iPad/Sony/Nook).

03-15-2010, 02:12 PM	#89
vaughnmr Ebook Reader Posts: 605 Karma: 3205128 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Texas Device: Kindle 3, HTC Evo, HTC View	pal, I think you have a problem with your "malwarebyte" software. I had no problem at all with her site. You must be getting false positives. I do have a problem with her manners, lol.

03-15-2010, 11:26 PM	#90
GalinAZ Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 66 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Arizona Device: Kindle	Thank you all for the guidance and points of view. I think I'll sell it and wait to see if future versions address some of the limitations. I'm not comfortable doing illegal hacking, "free speech" issues aside. I would hope that e-books follow the path of music formats and come to some common format that can be shared across all platforms. And by the way, I am a lady "Gal" in "AZ" (for Arizona).