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SnakeMM · 02-23-2010, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpierron

In the meantime, can't Aldiko be set up to be the application that's launched when you click on an epub URL in a browser ? Do you need a specific URL scheme to be set up, like Stanza with its "epub://" ?

David.

If someone knows how to this ... BTW another drawback in Aldiko is no option to sort series.

Thanks

dpierron · 02-23-2010, 04:56 AM

I contacted Minh Truong who is my contact with Aldiko, and I pointed him to this thread.

Let's just wait and see, in the meantime if you have any request that would make your waiting more pleasant - other than me rewriting Aldiko

- please post ! I'll do my very best...

All best,
David.

ChristopherTD · 02-23-2010, 05:00 AM

Stanza seems to make a Subject out of each tag, which you can see on the Groups section of the library, which is very handy. Whatever is in the OPDS that makes it do that, could also have a similar entry for the Series name?

I can't view the XML from here, alas, so I can't point to the exact element that controls this, but I did just download a book and the tag "Novel" was automatically created as a Subject.

dpierron · 02-23-2010, 05:05 AM

Ok I see ; I'll check this and come back to you soon...

itimpi · 02-23-2010, 07:31 AM

Stanza does not understand the concept of Series! Probably because the ePub standard does not yet specify a way of handling series information.

In my Calibre2Web program what I did was add the Series information to the Summary data in the gereated XML catalogs. This was not ideal as it meant you had to load the book and looks at its info to find out this information. My brother who reads a lot of series found it was easier to go to the generated online catalog and browser the series sub-section from there.

The ideal solution would be a relase of Stanza that does recognise series in some way - but that is dependent on LexCycle.

The current treatment you mention in Stanza relies on the tags being embedded into the books metadata. You could do this yourself in calibre. I do not see how Calibre2Opds could do this as it does not touch book content.

dpierron · 02-24-2010, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnakeMM

Hey. It is great idea. But if someone can me help with Aldiko on my HTC Saphire. Cannot see any option to connect my Calibre library on Dropbox to Aldiko.
Any guidance would be very appreciated.

Hi !
As promised, I contacted Minh with Aldiko and he answered promptly ; here is his message :

Oui tout à fait, désolé de ne pas avoir été suffisament clair; cette fonctionalité est toujours d'actualité et nous espérons l'inclure dans la prochaine version. Cette dernière a subit quelques délais dus a divers problèmes causés par d'autres modifications.

and a translation

Yes indeed, sorry about not being clear enough ; this feature is still in the pipe and we hope to include it in the next release. It (the next release) is experiencing a few setbacks due to diverse problems caused by other modifications.

I think that he means : wait until the next version of Aldiko, and you'll be able to import your ODPS feed ! Isn't it great ?

All best,
David.

ChristopherTD · 02-24-2010, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itimpi

Stanza does not understand the concept of Series! Probably because the ePub standard does not yet specify a way of handling series information.

The current treatment you mention in Stanza relies on the tags being embedded into the books metadata. You could do this yourself in calibre. I do not see how Calibre2Opds could do this as it does not touch book content.

I was thinking perhaps the Series could be be added to the list of tags, at the point the data is extracted from the database? Then downstream it just appears to be a tag like all the rest?

itimpi · 02-24-2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristopherTD

I was thinking perhaps the Series could be be added to the list of tags, at the point the data is extracted from the database? Then downstream it just appears to be a tag like all the rest?

That does not work. Stanza looks inside the epub file for the tag information.

dpierron · 02-24-2010, 11:32 AM

What I could do is extend the functionnality of the program (or write another) to make it access and change the metadata.opf file inside the ePub file ...
It's complex, I'll have to write a complete parser to make sure the program understands the file content, and then a GUI to allow edition ; but it's cool nonetheless...
Maybe if I have too much time

iandix · 02-24-2010, 11:41 AM

would it not be easier, just to let people use Calibre (run the convert ebooks option) and that then writes to the epubs metadata.opf file.

dpierron · 02-24-2010, 01:05 PM

Well, it would be easier... for me ...

But I cannot count on the people wanting to re-generate their books ; in fact, from my personal experience, it is often a bad thing to do, as things such as book jacket page and other stuff get duplicated...
Sometimes, I wish I had an ePub metadata editor... Maybe it's time I wrote one ?

ChristopherTD · 02-24-2010, 04:32 PM

I didn't realise that the tags were lurking in the ePub itself, I thought they just existed in the Calibre database.

The easiest thing to do then is simply for me to add the Series as a tag as well. That doesn't require any changes anywhere, just a bit of copy and paste for me.

SnakeMM · 02-25-2010, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpierron

Hi !

I think that he means : wait until the next version of Aldiko, and you'll be able to import your ODPS feed ! Isn't it great ?

All best,
David.

Thanks for info. I am looking forward for new version of Aldiko.
Great news.

SnakeMM · 02-26-2010, 07:43 AM

Hi
After few days of using your program I have noticed that i am missing one feature according series (yes again about series

).
When you browse books under author label you do not know which one does not belong to series. Pop-up window is not enough. Can you add right after author name info about series and number in it?

Cheers

dpierron · 02-26-2010, 08:35 AM

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are requesting ; can you be more specific, maybe give me an example ?

02-23-2010, 07:31 AM	#110
itimpi Wizard Posts: 4,553 Karma: 950151 Join Date: Nov 2008 Device: Sony PRS-950, iphone/ipad (Marvin/iBooks/QuickReader)	Stanza does not understand the concept of Series! Probably because the ePub standard does not yet specify a way of handling series information. In my Calibre2Web program what I did was add the Series information to the Summary data in the gereated XML catalogs. This was not ideal as it meant you had to load the book and looks at its info to find out this information. My brother who reads a lot of series found it was easier to go to the generated online catalog and browser the series sub-section from there. The ideal solution would be a relase of Stanza that does recognise series in some way - but that is dependent on LexCycle. The current treatment you mention in Stanza relies on the tags being embedded into the books metadata. You could do this yourself in calibre. I do not see how Calibre2Opds could do this as it does not touch book content. Last edited by itimpi; 02-23-2010 at 07:35 AM.

02-26-2010, 07:43 AM	#119
SnakeMM Member Posts: 21 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: HTC Magic	Series info on website view Hi After few days of using your program I have noticed that i am missing one feature according series (yes again about series ). When you browse books under author label you do not know which one does not belong to series. Pop-up window is not enough. Can you add right after author name info about series and number in it? Cheers

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02-23-2010, 04:56 AM	#107
dpierron calibre2opds guru Posts: 533 Karma: 8792 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Metz, France Device: iPhone, iPad, PRS-650	I contacted Minh Truong who is my contact with Aldiko, and I pointed him to this thread. Let's just wait and see, in the meantime if you have any request that would make your waiting more pleasant - other than me rewriting Aldiko - please post ! I'll do my very best... All best, David.

02-23-2010, 05:00 AM	#108
ChristopherTD Addict Posts: 343 Karma: 1010002 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London. UK Device: Marvin Reader on iPad Air (via Calibre)	Stanza seems to make a Subject out of each tag, which you can see on the Groups section of the library, which is very handy. Whatever is in the OPDS that makes it do that, could also have a similar entry for the Series name? I can't view the XML from here, alas, so I can't point to the exact element that controls this, but I did just download a book and the tag "Novel" was automatically created as a Subject.

02-23-2010, 05:05 AM	#109
dpierron calibre2opds guru Posts: 533 Karma: 8792 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Metz, France Device: iPhone, iPad, PRS-650	Ok I see ; I'll check this and come back to you soon...

02-24-2010, 11:32 AM	#114
dpierron calibre2opds guru Posts: 533 Karma: 8792 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Metz, France Device: iPhone, iPad, PRS-650	What I could do is extend the functionnality of the program (or write another) to make it access and change the metadata.opf file inside the ePub file ... It's complex, I'll have to write a complete parser to make sure the program understands the file content, and then a GUI to allow edition ; but it's cool nonetheless... Maybe if I have too much time

02-24-2010, 11:41 AM	#115
iandix Addict Posts: 295 Karma: 109308 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NSW Australia Device: nook touch a Nook 3g (rooted) and a nookcolor (rooted)	would it not be easier, just to let people use Calibre (run the convert ebooks option) and that then writes to the epubs metadata.opf file.

02-24-2010, 01:05 PM	#116
dpierron calibre2opds guru Posts: 533 Karma: 8792 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Metz, France Device: iPhone, iPad, PRS-650	Well, it would be easier... for me ... But I cannot count on the people wanting to re-generate their books ; in fact, from my personal experience, it is often a bad thing to do, as things such as book jacket page and other stuff get duplicated... Sometimes, I wish I had an ePub metadata editor... Maybe it's time I wrote one ?

02-24-2010, 04:32 PM	#117
ChristopherTD Addict Posts: 343 Karma: 1010002 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London. UK Device: Marvin Reader on iPad Air (via Calibre)	I didn't realise that the tags were lurking in the ePub itself, I thought they just existed in the Calibre database. The easiest thing to do then is simply for me to add the Series as a tag as well. That doesn't require any changes anywhere, just a bit of copy and paste for me.

02-26-2010, 08:35 AM	#120
dpierron calibre2opds guru Posts: 533 Karma: 8792 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Metz, France Device: iPhone, iPad, PRS-650	I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are requesting ; can you be more specific, maybe give me an example ?