The Apple iPad will cost no more than $ 229.35 - Page 6

Verencat · 02-21-2010, 11:38 PM

I think this thread has strayed way too far. Please, try to stay on topic.
Thank you,

Cat [moderator]

kilofox · 02-21-2010, 11:43 PM

It isnt a crime to sell something that has high profit margin i.e. iPad. The only people getting ripped-off are people who buy an iPad when they really cant afford it.

SCION · 02-21-2010, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verencat

I think this thread has strayed way too far. Please, try to stay on topic.
Thank you,

Cat [moderator]

Thanks for stepping in!

SCION · 02-21-2010, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joblack

...laws are being made by people with a better understanding of moral issues.
...

Where's this fairy tale place at?

Alright, I'm done feeding the frenzy.

Bremen Cole · 02-22-2010, 06:15 AM

@joblack.... I completely agree with others that the topic has strayed too far, and this is certainly not the place to discuss such a matter. So this will be my last post on the subject....

When making my simple statement I really didn't see anything controversial about it. Just stating things that a generation or two ago would have been self evident. Nearly two pages in the thread later I was attacked and so responded (heck, I had forgotten I even posted it). I of course do not think bribing is a great idea (and there is no evidence that Mr. Jobs did so, just hateful conjecture). In our little town I have known people getting liver transplants, and one of them was not just poor but very poor.

But my burning house example stands. Because the bottom line is in our fantasy liver transplant example and the burning house, one or both will die depending on what we do. In burning house with my child and a strangers child I would not hesitate to rush in and bring my child to safety. I would not have to debate with myself on the "morally" or "fair" thing to do. With your distorted moral idea you would have to try to be "fair". So the house is burning, and only one can be rescued. You I guess would pull out a coin and flip it, giving each child a "fair' chance at being saved. When the coin came against your child you would enter the house, pass up the room to your child, and pull the stranger from the flames. You could present the strangers child and explain how moral and fair you are. Then go to the morgue and identify the charred remains of your own child.

Again, I agree with the "fair" distribution of organs for transplant. And it is easy to wax all super moral and self righteous when talking in made up scenarios. But I know in the real situations, the love for a child will often trump pious sounding rhetoric.

Anyway, that's all folks.... I have been called "pathetic", "selfish" and a "coward" in this thread. I've been called worse, and Lord willing I will live long enough to be called worse again

I do apologize to anyone that I offended, it's okay to disagree.

HarryO53 · 02-22-2010, 07:01 AM

I suspect that most electronic devices, especially the Intel based PC, cost a lot less to manufacture than they are sold for. These items have been around for years and years and I'm sure that design calls for spending as little money as possible on raw materials. For some reason, a Mac holds it's value quite a bit longer than any PC I've seen. I have personal experience with this. I don't know what it costs to manufacture a Mac, but I'm sure that one would be able to say the same thing, it costs nowhere near what it retails for.

Bremen Cole · 02-22-2010, 07:54 AM

I may be wrong, but it is my understanding the costs given in these tear downs is the total cost of the individual components. It is not the cost of actually making the product. In other words Apple paid that much money to buy the components that go into an iPad, but it is not their actual manufacturing cost of the final product, shipping....etc....

Like I said, I may be wrong, but I don't see where it says that is the total manufacturing cost.

And yes Harry053, for whatever reason Apple products hold their value much better than the average HP, Dell...etc.

joblack · 02-22-2010, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCION

Where's this fairy tale place at?

Alright, I'm done feeding the frenzy.

At least the highest court has stopped several laws which were against the constitution. That's the last bastion against unconstitutional laws.

By the way a liver would probably be enough for your 4 year old kid and yourself (you only need half of it to survive).

How about opening something like www.organbay.com - oh somebody already did it *hehe* ...

Anyway enough of it.

LDBoblo · 02-22-2010, 10:06 AM

I didn't know the iPad even had a liver...

balok · 02-22-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joblack

If the remaining livers are distributed in a fair and transparent manner there is nothing to say about it but if some rich guys can change the queue by giving kickbacks I'm not amused about it.

Let's say you're 70, rich and need a new liver. With some 'financial help' you could go in front of the queue and a 16 year old girl dies because she didn't get a liver in time. Would you still do it?

Hell no, that would be immoral and cowardly. But I think this Bemen Cole fellow wouldn't think twice.

But we're not allowed to talk about this because it's off-topic. I feel as if we're in a classroom and the teacher just said "shhhht".

cbarnett · 02-22-2010, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by balok

Hell no, that would be immoral and cowardly. But I think this Bemen Cole fellow wouldn't think twice.

But we're not allowed to talk about this because it's off-topic. I feel as if we're in a classroom and the teacher just said "shhhht".

Not really. All the moderator did was remind everyone about the thread's purpose and gently put us back on track. It's their job to do that, and the thread really was starting to drift!

dragonbone · 02-22-2010, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joblack

Who wants to finance Steve Jobs another liver?

Drug dealers doesn't necessarily have a bigger profit margin.

WHAT??? How dare you? Are you starting the liver thing again?? Weren't your slanderous posts regarding Steve Jobs and his liver removed a few weeks ago?

I find your comments extremely offensive!!!!!

dragonbone · 02-22-2010, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joblack

I'm not joking about liver transplants I criticize the way he got one (lets say it was really suspicious). And perhaps your mother would got one if rich people who needed one too hadn't interfered ...

WHAT????? Once again I ask you, what proof have you of these slanderous accusations?

Dr. Drib · 02-22-2010, 10:01 PM

Last warning.

As another moderator mentioned, this thread has strayed quite beyond the intention of the original poster.

Please refrain from going off-topic.

Don
(Moderator)

dragonbone · 02-22-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Drib

Last warning.

As another moderator mentioned, this thread has strayed quite beyond the intention of the original poster.

Please refrain from going off-topic.

Don
(Moderator)

With all respect to the moderator. What exactly is the intention of the original poster 'joblack'?

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