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View Poll Results: Global warming or not, man-made or not?
It's all our fault! And we should do domething about it. 85 40.09%
It's all our fault, but it is too late to mend it. 10 4.72%
It is happening, but not our fault. (part of the planets natural cycle) 52 24.53%
Don't believe in Global warming, it's all a fabrication. 36 16.98%
The blue fish, in the sea (which isn't rising) 10 4.72%
Non of the above... 19 8.96%
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:52 AM   #301
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makes you wonder if there is any incestual process in this - there has to be a reliable starting point ....
not forgetting, of course, that much of the rationale behind the theory of anthropogenic cause comes from the results of computer programs written by humans !!!
sophisticated programs that still have to make scientific short-hands written into them about atmospheric processes and interaction with water and land. one of the things I remember from school physics and mathematics was that an end calculation can only be as good and precise as its input.
much of the data input into climate models can only be coarse, and yet the output is increasingly fine.

I do, though, think that we as a species are contributing to climate change.
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' course not.

I'm convinced he invented the internet, and caused global warming all by himself.
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Old 02-20-2010, 02:25 AM   #304
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Yes. One of the episodes of "How the Earth was Made" is on Yellowstone. I just happened to watch it again last night. There is evidence that it erupts approximately every 600,000 years or so and it's been 650,000 since the last one.

Run for your lives!!!
Yes, I've got the documentary (which hasn't happened, yet) 'Super Volcano'.. Very interesting as well as frightening... Something is bound to go 'BANG' sooner or later...
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' course not.

I'm convinced he invented the internet, and caused global warming all by himself.
Wait, I thought it was the internet that CAUSED global warming -- all those power-hungry data centers and stuff...
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:28 AM   #307
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Wait, I thought it was the internet that CAUSED global warming -- all those power-hungry data centers and stuff...
And the want to put them in the Arctic to get all the free airconditioning...
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And the want to put them in the Arctic to get all the free airconditioning...
But wouldn't that slow down the interons?
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Yes it is true. Thatis what Phil Jones said in his interview with the BBC the original Q and A are published here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8511670.stm

Mr Jones was also asked the question

Do you agree that according to the global temperature record used by the IPCC, the rates of global warming from 1860-1880, 1910-1940 and 1975-1998 were identical?

and his answer

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An initial point to make is that in the responses to these questions I've assumed that when you talk about the global temperature record, you mean the record that combines the estimates from land regions with those from the marine regions of the world. CRU produces the land component, with the Met Office Hadley Centre producing the marine component.

Temperature data for the period 1860-1880 are more uncertain, because of sparser coverage, than for later periods in the 20th Century. The 1860-1880 period is also only 21 years in length. As for the two periods 1910-40 and 1975-1998 the warming rates are not statistically significantly different (see numbers below).

I have also included the trend over the period 1975 to 2009, which has a very similar trend to the period 1975-1998.

So, in answer to the question, the warming rates for all 4 periods are similar and not statistically significantly different from each other.

Here are the trends and significances for each period:
Period Length Trend
(Degrees C per decade) Significance
1860-1880 21 0.163 Yes
1910-1940 31 0.15 Yes
1975-1998 24 0.166 Yes
1975-2009 35 0.161 Yes
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hate to revive a controversial thread, but....


Look at this breakthrough in solar panels...

85% efficient???!!!!


http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/28/c...lexible-solar/
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hate to revive a controversial thread, but....


Look at this breakthrough in solar panels...

85% efficient???!!!!


http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/28/c...lexible-solar/

That could be a significant breakthrough as most seem to be only about 15-20% efficient.
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I believe that it is happening and that we have caused it. I believe that it is too late to prevent it but it's not too late to curb the effects.
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It is a Natural occurrence.
That said, we should still avoid certain activities when reasonable alternatives are available.
All I see is "Green" at any cost, mantra. Let us find a middle ground (and be willing to adjust as things develop).
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Old 02-28-2010, 09:24 PM   #315
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It is a Natural occurrence. ...
Well, that's true. When human activity increases the CO2 content of the atmosphere, it naturally gets warmer.
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