What's Sony's next ereader? - Page 4

kennyc · 02-19-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpGlide

turning wireless off when you do not use it may help lot. wireless consumes lots of energy.

There's no wireless on a 600...

Ben Thornton · 02-19-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpGlide

turning wireless off when you do not use it may help lot. wireless consumes lots of energy.

I doubt that turning wireless off will help on the PRS-600

Snap!

AlpGlide · 02-19-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Thornton

I doubt that turning wireless off will help on the PRS-600

Snap!

I do not have prs-600

. I tried to disable wireless on prs-900. it helped.

SCION · 02-19-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AlpGlide

I do not have prs-600

. I tried to disable wireless on prs-900. it helped.

Thanks for trying to help!

luqmaninbmore · 02-19-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenophon

Just add in an overnight stop in a country for which you don't have the correct power adapter, and you've got the necessary case. For example, on my recent trip to India, I wound up spending the night at a hotel near Charles de Gaul airport because I missed my connecting flight. Thus, I got to Bangalore 48 hours after leaving Pittsburgh (instead of the scheduled 24).

I had US power adapters with me. I had both styles of Indian plug adapters. But I didn't have anything I could use to plug in at the hotel in France! So, by the time I got to Bangalore I'd completely run through the charge on my PRS-700. That represents about two solid days of reading (12 hours or more, each), or 6 long-ish novels. A device that only goes 12 hours between charges would have run out long before.

Shorter battery life really would be a problem. For me, anyway.

Xenophon

Out of curiousity, what occasioned the trip to Bangalore? I ask because my wife is from there and I have developed an interest in the economic and social life of the area. I like my 700, but I've found its on the lower end of the e-ink reader spectrum in terms of battery life, most likely because of the light. I can generally get a week of heavy use out of it if I limit my use of the light as opposed to two weeks out of my old PRS500 or the, I kid you not, months I've gotten out of my Pocketbook 360.

Luqman

Luqman

Xenophon · 02-19-2010, 05:06 PM

I presented a paper at PPoPP 2010, which was being held in Bangalore. The paper was one of three nominees for the best paper award (yay!) but didn't win (sigh).

Xenophon

kennyc · 02-19-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Xenophon

I presented a paper at PPoPP 2010, which was being held in Bangalore. The paper was one of three nominees for the best paper award (yay!) but didn't win (sigh).

Xenophon

usfbull · 02-22-2010, 12:51 PM

Sony's next gen readers better use this type of screen technology, check out the videos over at engadget. my dream e-reader is coming closer to reality.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/22/l...ew-qwerty-equ/

Kolenka · 02-22-2010, 12:53 PM

The motion and color is nice... but the contrast has a ways to go to catch up to e-ink as it is today. The demos look rather 'faded'.

usfbull · 02-23-2010, 10:01 AM

I agree that the second video looked washed, but the first one with the color e-ink screen looked phenominal, and the black text on white paper should make things easy to read too. I wounder how long before the new e-ink screens are used in readers?

cmdahler · 02-23-2010, 10:14 AM

You'll probably see some small manufacturers using Mirasol, Liquavista, and Pixel Qi late this year or early next year. It'll be quite a while before you see any big names using new tech like this. It's always the little guys that are willing to take the plunge with the new stuff; big names like Sony and Amazon and Apple have no need to be the first on the market because people buy their products just based on name and the perceived quality that goes with the big name. If those companies started using newer tech, with its associated costs, bugs, and inevitable early-run unreliability and lower quality compared with later production models, they'd lose a good deal of their user base. They'll wait until someone else has worked out the bugs and solved all the mass-market issues, and then they'll flood the market with whatever looks to be the winner of the various technologies and squash the little guys. How long was e-ink available before Sony and Amazon both finally took the plunge? The big guys can afford to wait.

To me, of the various new tech displays I've seen, Mirasol looks like it has the most promise as a dedicated e-reader screen. Liquavista looks like it has a loooong way to go to get the contrast up enough - that washed out screen looks worse than a Sony 900. Pixel Qi is ultimately not going to make it just because of power consumption issues and the fact that it's based on what is now old tech: it's still LCD, and even with the backlighting off, it still has to draw power because it still refreshes the screen at 60Hz. That one will never make it two weeks between charges. Of course, if e-ink can ever get a decent refresh rate and solve their color issues, they could also remain a contender in the field, and because of the familiarity with the underlying tech, that would probably be what the big names in e-readers would stick with.

monkeyboy20 · 02-25-2010, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

I don't have an issue with charging either a full day or two is plenty for me. I do with the eInk were even more like paper with better contrast. Color would be great for magazine/article reading...

I hope Sony will make a touchable screen on par, or better, than my 505! Color or not, I'm just hoping that the contrast and "paper whiteness" is better! I think the current PRS-900 have all the functionality that I want... just the screen isn't up to my standard as I have to constantly find an angle that glare isn't an issue.

02-23-2010, 10:14 AM	#56
cmdahler Addict Posts: 292 Karma: 24688 Join Date: Aug 2009 Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	You'll probably see some small manufacturers using Mirasol, Liquavista, and Pixel Qi late this year or early next year. It'll be quite a while before you see any big names using new tech like this. It's always the little guys that are willing to take the plunge with the new stuff; big names like Sony and Amazon and Apple have no need to be the first on the market because people buy their products just based on name and the perceived quality that goes with the big name. If those companies started using newer tech, with its associated costs, bugs, and inevitable early-run unreliability and lower quality compared with later production models, they'd lose a good deal of their user base. They'll wait until someone else has worked out the bugs and solved all the mass-market issues, and then they'll flood the market with whatever looks to be the winner of the various technologies and squash the little guys. How long was e-ink available before Sony and Amazon both finally took the plunge? The big guys can afford to wait. To me, of the various new tech displays I've seen, Mirasol looks like it has the most promise as a dedicated e-reader screen. Liquavista looks like it has a loooong way to go to get the contrast up enough - that washed out screen looks worse than a Sony 900. Pixel Qi is ultimately not going to make it just because of power consumption issues and the fact that it's based on what is now old tech: it's still LCD, and even with the backlighting off, it still has to draw power because it still refreshes the screen at 60Hz. That one will never make it two weeks between charges. Of course, if e-ink can ever get a decent refresh rate and solve their color issues, they could also remain a contender in the field, and because of the familiarity with the underlying tech, that would probably be what the big names in e-readers would stick with. Last edited by cmdahler; 02-23-2010 at 10:17 AM.

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02-19-2010, 05:06 PM	#51
Xenophon curmudgeon Posts: 1,487 Karma: 5748190 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Redwood City, CA USA Device: Kobo Aura HD, (ex)nook, (ex)PRS-700, (ex)PRS-500	I presented a paper at PPoPP 2010, which was being held in Bangalore. The paper was one of three nominees for the best paper award (yay!) but didn't win (sigh). Xenophon

02-22-2010, 12:51 PM	#53
usfbull Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Device: Sony PRS600	Sony's next gen readers better use this type of screen technology, check out the videos over at engadget. my dream e-reader is coming closer to reality. http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/22/l...ew-qwerty-equ/

02-22-2010, 12:53 PM	#54
Kolenka <Insert Wit Here> Posts: 1,017 Karma: 1275899 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Puget Sound Device: Kindle Oasis, Kobo Forma	The motion and color is nice... but the contrast has a ways to go to catch up to e-ink as it is today. The demos look rather 'faded'.

02-23-2010, 10:01 AM	#55
usfbull Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Device: Sony PRS600	I agree that the second video looked washed, but the first one with the color e-ink screen looked phenominal, and the black text on white paper should make things easy to read too. I wounder how long before the new e-ink screens are used in readers?