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Old 02-18-2010, 03:48 PM   #11461
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:36 PM   #11462
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last I heard and this is from reputable sources which I could probably google if I wanted to...

ecoli does not exist interior to meat. ie; the inside parts of roast and steak and so on do not carry it. it rides on the surface of meat and is triggered by airborne contact. the ecoli gets on the equipment which is then not cleaned correctly and then you have an outbreak.
Exactly. The colis come from outside. They should not but they mostly do. Mainly because of human carelessness.
Now, the E.coli itself are not the problem. The problem is, that they are resistent against antibiotics (not all, but against enough) ant they tend to pass this resistanse to bacteria, that are pathogen (make you sick). Some of them come also from outside, some of them might be in the meat itself, or the bones, ligaments, etc. So it is a pretty long chain of bad luck to get sick by raw meat, and still tha chances are much lesser, if you cook it.


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there are MANY micro critters in all of the food. ask your prof how he feels about the excretions left over from a passionate night of lovemaking. you'd probably never have sex again
Mmm, no thanks. I kind of enjoy this particular activity, and would like it to stay so.

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I write here, instead of lerning for my exam tomorrow. Like a friend fo mine says: "Not good, LCF, not good."
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:52 PM   #11463
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Exactly. The colis come from outside. They should not but they mostly do. Mainly because of human carelessness.
Now, the E.coli itself are not the problem. The problem is, that they are resistent against antibiotics (not all, but against enough) ant they tend to pass this resistanse to bacteria, that are pathogen (make you sick). Some of them come also from outside, some of them might be in the meat itself, or the bones, ligaments, etc. So it is a pretty long chain of bad luck to get sick by raw meat, and still tha chances are much lesser, if you cook it.




Mmm, no thanks. I kind of enjoy this particular activity, and would like it to stay so. so do I AND I like (good) raw beef!

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I write here, instead of lerning for my exam tomorrow. Like a friend fo mine says: "Not good, LCF, not good."
and some of the best steak tartare I've ever had was in Germany!
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:54 PM   #11464
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:54 PM   #11465
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Just remember: paleolithic people only ate natural food, and their life expectancy was 33 (says Wikipedia. I wasn't there).
I think that is skewed though. Remember back then alot of babies died during child birth or very young because they didn't have today's medical knowledge such as sonograms and pre-natal vitamins. Also, there were no vaccines for childhood diseases.

However, if a person made it past the first 5 years or so they would survive with a similar life span as we have today.

But, when you average it out with all the people that didn't live past 2 the average mortality age looks very low.

Actually, there is a whole new movement of the paleolithic diet (caveman diet) that is getting steam. basically it talks about eating natural and raw food rather than all the processed sugar and carbs that most people eat today which many think is what causes so many of today's modern diseases like arteriosclerosis and diabetes.

Granted I don't think they advocate raw meat.

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Old 02-18-2010, 04:54 PM   #11466
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You know, steak tartare is ridiculously easy to make. Here is a recipe from a French site. I was lazy and used Google translate, the result seems reasonable so it must be right
There is no way the French would put ketchup in it. That has to be a new receipe.

I do love steak tartare - and the kitty does too :-)
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Old 02-18-2010, 04:58 PM   #11467
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I think that is skewed though. Remember back then alot of babies died during child birth or very young because they didn't have today's medical knowledge such as sonograms and pre-natal vitamins. Also, there were no vaccines for childhood diseases.

However, if a person made it past the first 5 years or so they would survive with a similar life span as we have today.

But, when you average it out with all the people that didn't live past 2 the average mortality age looks very low.

Actually, there is a whole new movement of the paleolithic diet (caveman diet) that is getting steam. basically it talks about eating natural and raw food rather than all the processed sugar and carbs that most people eat today which many think is what causes so many of today's modern diseases like arteriosclerosis and diabetes.

Granted I don't think they advocate raw meat.

BOb
I have actually unintentionally eaten that way my whole life anyway. including raw meat! fast food happens maybe twice a year, I don't buy pre-prepared foods; canned, dried or frozen. even when I had a house full of kids and worked construction, everything was home made and from scratch. my daughter is living proof of how this works. she left home, eats crap and put on 150lbs (my former athlete in training)
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Old 02-18-2010, 05:51 PM   #11470
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more importantly, are you required to wear pants and have both feet on the ground whilst presenting?
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...are you required to wear both feet and have your pants on the ground whilst presenting?...
...are you required wear the red hat?...

Going to sleep now. Exam in 6,5h. Huh. Wish me luck, I'm gonna need it.

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lol just regular day to day work stuff I do. Nothing fancy.

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