iPad Without Pixel Qi, the Apple iPad fails

[Charbax]

Originally Posted by scottjl

i think you need to look up your anti-trust laws. itunes is not a monopoly. popular, yes, monopoly,

EU countries are suing apple over the itunes monopoly.

Forcing people use one type of hardware to play one type of content and to use one type of software is creating a monopoly!

Anti-trust laws are simple, apple has been breaching them more than most other companies in silicon valley, the regulators are just not effective at all in enforcing anti-trust laws.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by Charbax

Only recently apple got forced to un-drm their contents (to try avoiding anti-trust lawsuits), and there is an extra fee to purchase non-DRM on itunes last I checked, which probably means most people still buy DRMed versions on itunes.

From Apple's FAQ:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1711

How much does iTunes Plus music cost?
iTunes Plus songs are available at one of three price points. In the U.S. the pricing is 0.69 USD, 0.99 USD, or 1.29 USD each.

Music on the Store available in iTunes Plus will no longer be available as 128 kbps and with DRM.

[scottjl]

Originally Posted by Charbax

EU countries are suing apple over the itunes monopoly.

and they were so effective with the microsoft monopoly. lol.

Forcing people use one type of hardware to play one type of content and to use one type of software is creating a monopoly!

i'm sorry. i've been to europe many times, no one ever put a gun to my head and told me to buy and ipod and music from itunes or else. i must have missed those sections of town.

Anti-trust laws are simple, apple has been breaching them more than most other companies in silicon valley, the regulators are just not effective at all in enforcing anti-trust laws.

please. don't go spouting violations of anti-trust laws unless you're a anti-trust lawyer, which you're obviously not.

[Charbax]

Originally Posted by scottjl

actually if you read up on the history of itunes, jobs was against DRM from the beginning but the only way he could get the record labels to go along with it was to add the DRM. jobs fought for years to remove the DRM and eventually won. apple was not "forced" to remove their DRM. again. check your facts.

Apple is in the business of lying. You want to believe whatever bollocks marketing speak they have, you go ahead. Play into their game.

Originally Posted by scottjl

i'd hardly say you're representative of "all people using the internet" yourself. and again, you have no facts to back up any of your rants here.

Sure, other than all the facts from ISP Internet traffic, ipod owners usage surveys, published itunes sales numbers divided by number of published sold ipods. And more facts on bill of material and manufacturing cost in China for the iphone and the complete ridiculous $3500 2-year contracts people (like you?) signup for these.

Originally Posted by scottjl

apparently you aren't aware of how corporations work. they are out to make money. plain and simple.

Are you in the business of making money for those corproations? Or are you and most others on these Internet forums not more likely to have the interest of protecting the rights and improving the choices for consumers.

Originally Posted by scottjl

plain and simple: don't like apple's products, then don't buy them. move on. the only thing you show us here is that you like to rant without facts to back up your opinions.

Oh you can be sure I never have bought and never will buy an apple product.

Then I spend my time helping other Internet users not get sucked into the apple reality distortion field. I let them know things like:

Originally Posted by scottjl

do you think apple in no way considered the Qi? i would think apple considered every alternative and there had to be some reason they went with the screen they did. they didn't just throw a dart a board and see what screen it hit.

Apple is in the business of maximizing profits and preventing competition and preventing innovations in technology to disrupt their established business models. They don't care what is right for consumers.

More than 5 other major manufacturers are preparing Pixel Qi based tablets and laptops.

Originally Posted by scottjl

how long do you wait before you actually make a purchase? i could be using my iPad for lots of things for the next 6 months while you wait on the possibility that other manufacturers might announce a device, and wait longer for it to actually ship

I've had my Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android since October 2009, I've been using it for about 6 months when you get your much inferior iPad. In fact I've played DivX videos in a pocketable Archos device since 2002, in Tablet WiFi mode pocketable since 2005, with Flash support for web video streaming since 2007.

And Archos is releasing a 7" Android version around the same time as the iPad release for rumored only $199 all included. No lock-ins, it's Android multi-task, it's even able to multi-boot alternative Linux OS such as ubuntu, maemo, angstrom linux and qt.

At CES 2010, I saw about 15 other manufacturers releasing Tablets that all are better value than the iPad, most run Android software which does more than just the same as iphone OS on ipad.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by Charbax

I've had my Archos 5 Internet Tablet with Android since October 2009, I've been using it for about 6 months when you get your much inferior iPad.

And Archos is releasing a 7" version around the same time as the iPad release for rumored only $199 all included. No lock-ins, it's Android multi-task, it's even hackable to run alternative Linux OS such as ubuntu, maemo, angstrom linux and qt.

At CES 2010, I saw about 15 other manufacturers releasing Tablets that all are better value than the iPad, most run Android software which does more than just the same as iphone OS on ipad.

See, here is what puzzles me. You have 146 Posts here on MobileRead. You have 3 Posts about the Archos line of products, which you think are just awesome, and which I and other users would probably love to know more about. 3 Posts.

You saw 15 other products that are ALL a better value than the iPad. I go to the Other Devices forum, and don't see a lot of spirited discussions/informational posts about their positive features.

And yet, how many negative iPad posts have you made, just today?

It just puzzles me.

[Charbax]

Originally Posted by kjk

See, here is what puzzles me. You have 146 Posts here on MobileRead. You have 3 Posts about the Archos line of products, which you think are just awesome, and which I and other users would probably love to know more about. 3 Posts.

You saw 15 other products that are ALL a better value than the iPad. I go to the Other Devices forum, and don't see a lot of spirited discussions/informational posts about their positive features.

And yet, how many negative iPad posts have you made, just today?

It just puzzles me.

I don't really have that much time to post all my opinions in all the forums.

If you want, you can read my 5300 posts on Archos in my Archos related forum at http://forum.archosfans.com

And you can find my thousand videos showing alternatives to apple products including my Pixel Qi videos at http://armdevices.net and http://techvideoblog.com

[scottjl]

charbax, you're a troll. seriously. go away.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by Charbax

I don't really have that much time to post all my opinions in all the forums.

If you want, you can read my 3500 posts on Archos in my other Archos related forum at http://forum.archosfans.com

And you can find my thousand videos showing alternatives to apple products including my Pixel Qi videos at http://armdevices.net and http://techvideoblog.com

That's my point. I saw your links from other posts you made. Looks great. Just not sure why your time here on Mobileread is more focused on the negative.

[Charbax]

Originally Posted by kjk

That's my point. I saw your links from other posts you made. Looks great. Just not sure why your time here on Mobileread is more focused on the negative.

I am an optimist and mostly positive and enthusiastic about competition and innovation in the market.

But it also bothers me when competition and innovation is slowed down by big monopolies that see more profits in keeping the status quo or by controling the market in their favour instead of competing in the market fairly with the same rules for everyone to bring new technologies forward to consumers as fast as possible.

Consumers should be able to just sit back and consume the best content, with the best technology and products for the best prices. The problem is that some companies don't think they can make enough money if it happens like that.

[scottjl]

well. this is a forum about discussing apple's devices, with a particular slant on discussing their use as an ereader. if you'd like to rant about consumer protection, monopolies, corporate greed, etc. please. take it elsewhere.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by Charbax

I am an optimist and mostly positive and enthusiastic about competition and innovation in the market.

Me too!

[dmaul1114]

Originally Posted by scottjl

well. this is a forum about discussing apple's devices, with a particular slant on discussing their use as an ereader. if you'd like to rant about consumer protection, monopolies, corporate greed, etc. please. take it elsewhere.

Exactly.

And we don't need people posting who clearly state a bias of wanting to go around to forums and dissuade people from buying a certain product as he said above.

This should be a discussion of the real pros and cons of devices, and not get derailed by people who hate a company and want to go around trolling and with the explicitly stated goal of trying to get people to not buy something due to their own personal bias.

[DawnFalcon]

Equally, then, you have to exclude the fans of a company, since their personal bias is equally destructive, since they refuse to consider the cons, just as people who dislike the company mindlessly refused to consider the pros.

Good luck with that one.

[scottjl]

Dawn, be reasonable. These forums are supposed to be places of constructive use, people posting how to use products, not slamming readers, computers, companies and each other. I would think fans of a company and their products are going to want to hang out together and help each other. But there is no need for the utter crap some people have been posting against Apple, "corporate greed" and the iPad.

If you don't like the iPad, the iPhone or any of Apple's products then don't hang out in this forum, simple. Go hang out in the forums for the products you do like.

Didn't your mother ever teach you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

[DawnFalcon]

I am being reasonable. If people are making blanket statements, then they have to expect people to point out that their positions are rather extreme. Moreover, quite a few - but not all, sure - of the points made against Apple are entirely valid and will have a real effect on people's purchasing decisions.

For example - I have no problem with people buying Apple, but they should know about Apple's continued use of propitiatory DRM schemes and other lockin methods, which will limit their future device choices. I apply this fairly to all uses of DRM, not just Apple's. (Sure, I don't criticise say ADE as much as single-vendor lockins, but that's because it at least gives you some flexability in device choice).

And my mother? Heh. You really, really don't want to go there (No, she is not "nice").