Change Your Mind (On the Reading of Junk) - Page 7

Jellby · 02-12-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kad032000

By definition, graphic novels are comic books.

Some people associate a negative connotation with comic books because of how the medium has evolved, but it is not an inherently flawed mechanism of storytelling.

The only problem with "comic book" as a term, is the possible ambiguity of the word "comic", some comic books are not comic at all.

dmaul1114 · 02-12-2010, 01:19 PM

You know the only real thing I could add to this discussion is that people shouldn't give a shit what other people are reading. Read what you like and shut up and let people enjoy what they like to read.

Doing anything else, discussing what is or isn't literature is just pretentious, and people just end up looking like pompous asses who think their opinion/taste is the gospel truth.

Ea · 02-12-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

The only problem with "comic book" as a term, is the possible ambiguity of the word "comic", some comic books are not comic at all.

At least that specific issue is only a problem in English (as far as I'm aware)

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

Doing anything else, discussing what is or isn't literature is just pretentious, and people just end up looking like pompous asses who think their opinion/taste is the gospel truth.

What?! You mean it isn't? Oh, my

I'm afaid can't agree with your opinion that everything is equally good, and that we thus should not discuss quality.

kad032000 · 02-12-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jellby

The only problem with "comic book" as a term, is the possible ambiguity of the word "comic", some comic books are not comic at all.

An interesting point. According to Wikipedia the term was originally applied to works with "comic" themes but has evolved to encompass all sequential graphical narratives.

Ea · 02-12-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kad032000

An interesting point. According to Wikipedia the term was originally applied to works with "comic" themes but has evolved to encompass all sequential graphical narratives.

I thought the term 'graphic novel' had become popular specifically in order to avoid this issue. That not all 'comics' are comical, that is.

dmaul1114 · 02-12-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

I'm afaid can't agree with your opinion that everything is equally good, and that we thus should not discuss quality.

It's more the tone. People can discuss whether a book is good or not. Talk about the quality of writing, the plot, character development etc.

But that doesn't mean that people should go around knocking whole genre's as junk, and implying that people who read romance, fantasy etc. and not classic literature are simpletons who are rotting their minds.

That's a bunch of pretentious horse shit IMO. Just a way for pompous asses to act like their tastes are superior.

I'm into movies like most of you bookworms are into reading. But I don't go around bashing people who only watch popcorn action flicks and nothing else.

Ea · 02-12-2010, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

That's a bunch of pretentious horse shit IMO. Just a way for pompous asses to act like their tastes are superior.

What am I then? I read what I would myself call junk (or 'fluff'), as well what is usually classified as 'literary' works. I also think the literary works are 'better' than the junk, but I have no problems with reading either.

kennyc · 02-12-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

You know the only real thing I could add to this discussion is that people shouldn't give a shit what other people are reading. Read what you like and shut up and let people enjoy what they like to read.

Doing anything else, discussing what is or isn't literature is just pretentious, and people just end up looking like pompous asses who think their opinion/taste is the gospel truth.

Uh, well, I think knowledge can be gained but discussion of any topic and exchanging points of view. It may not matter on an individual basis, but may be important on a larger scale.

kennyc · 02-12-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

What am I then? I read what I would myself call junk (or 'fluff'), as well what is usually classified as 'literary' works. I also think the literary works are 'better' than the junk, but I have no problems with reading either.

But you're Danish.

Ea · 02-12-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

But you're Danish.

Hmm... Yes, there is that

PS:

kennyc · 02-12-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

Hmm... Yes, there is that

PS:

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dmaul1114 · 02-12-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ea

What am I then? I read what I would myself call junk (or 'fluff'), as well what is usually classified as 'literary' works. I also think the literary works are 'better' than the junk, but I have no problems with reading either.

I'd say you're the more typical reader then and hopefully don't go around insulting people for reading fantasy, romance or whatever you think isn't worth reading personally.

One can have their own tastes, stuff they think is great, ok, or crap, without having to insult people who read stuff they think is fluff or junk.

To each their own and all that.

dmaul1114 · 02-12-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyc

Uh, well, I think knowledge can be gained but discussion of any topic and exchanging points of view. It may not matter on an individual basis, but may be important on a larger scale.

Agreed. But discussions are more fruitful if the tone isn't one of condescension and making people with different tastes/opinions feel inferior.

Ea · 02-12-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

I'd say you're the more typical reader then and hopefully don't go around insulting people for reading fantasy, romance or whatever you think isn't worth reading personally.

One can have their own tastes, stuff they think is great, ok, or crap, without having to insult people who read stuff they think is fluff or junk.

To each their own and all that.

You know, what I reacted to in your posts was the implicit assumption that people had been insulting other over their reading tastes, I honestly haven't seen this here in this thread. I didn't think it was necessary to bring it up then.

kennyc · 02-12-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dmaul1114

Agreed. But discussions are more fruitful if the tone is one of condescension and making people with different tastes/opinions feel inferior.

No disagreement there.

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02-12-2010, 01:19 PM	#92
dmaul1114 Wizard Posts: 2,300 Karma: 1121709 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Amazon Kindle 1	You know the only real thing I could add to this discussion is that people shouldn't give a shit what other people are reading. Read what you like and shut up and let people enjoy what they like to read. Doing anything else, discussing what is or isn't literature is just pretentious, and people just end up looking like pompous asses who think their opinion/taste is the gospel truth.