EPUB output

[solitaire]

After converting a pdb book to epub format (using calibre V0.6.35) I find that the page numbering goes askew.

The original pdb book shows 540 pages and when I turn each page, the page number increments by 1 (which is what we expect)

When I use the EPUB format on the same device, the total number of pages is 241 and the page number will only increment after about 3 page turns. The reason I say "about" is that it is sometimes 2 and sometimes 4 but mostly 3.

Duing conversion I have used Nook as the output device.

Do I need to play around with some other setting?

Anyone else has similar problems, perhaps on another device?

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by solitaire

When I use the EPUB format on the same device, the total number of pages is 241 and the page number will only increment after about 3 page turns. The reason I say "about" is that it is sometimes 2 and sometimes 4 but mostly 3.

This is a feature of epub. In theory the epub will have the exact same "pages" on any device. That way no matter what size font or screen size the number of pages in the book will be the same for each reader. This enables a group to reference a page in the same ebook and know they are all on the same page.

For the font size I use it takes 8 or 9 turns to equal 1 page.

[solitaire]

Originally Posted by dwanthny

This is a feature of epub.

Hmmm, I am unable to see any advantage in this "feature", as most of us view it as a bug.

So what is the actual page size in this format? I mean what are the dimensions at which one page turn = incremeting the page number by 1?

[pdurrant]

Originally Posted by pendragginp

I changed a kindle book to pdf and then, using calibre, I converted it to epub and tried to send it to my jetbook.

If the Kindle book was in Mobipocket format, don't go through PDF, but convert directly to ePub. If it was in Topaz format, you'll need to use the latest Topaz tools to convert to HTML, and then convert that.

Going through PDF to ePub is never a good idea.

[DoctorOhh]

Originally Posted by solitaire

Hmmm, I am unable to see any advantage in this "feature", as most of us view it as a bug.

So what is the actual page size in this format? I mean what are the dimensions at which one page turn = incremeting the page number by 1?

I don't know, but having an isbn that you can reference/footnote with page number is critical to many college papers or curriculum. Here is a more complete discussion.

[theducks]

Originally Posted by solitaire

Hmmm, I am unable to see any advantage in this "feature", as most of us view it as a bug.

So what is the actual page size in this format? I mean what are the dimensions at which one page turn = incremeting the page number by 1?

When the display font is small enough for the entire "Page" to render on a single screen :/ It all depends on the Original publication (format) layout. ISBN assignment belongs to a [I]forma[t/I].
With e-book readers, you may be looking through a window to a portion of the page If referencing a "page" in a particular ISBN, the small numbers are the correct ones to use. They don't change with font size.

[tompe]

Originally Posted by solitaire

Hmmm, I am unable to see any advantage in this "feature", as most of us view it as a bug.

I do not think that most people view it as a bug when they understand how it works. On great advantage is that you can estimate how long the book will take to read independent on what font size you open the book in. You can see before you buy a book how long it is. And so on.

[lovelyloey]

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Found information I need, thanks.

[fglaysher]

Originally Posted by solitaire

Hmmm, I am unable to see any advantage in this "feature", as most of us view it as a bug.

So what is the actual page size in this format? I mean what are the dimensions at which one page turn = incremeting the page number by 1?

I am trying to format an a 20-page poetry chapbook, which has a long history in English literature, into an ePub eChapbook. The problem I'm having on my Sony Reader is the pagination comes up as 6 pages total. Each ePub page is really 2 to 4 pages. I initially tried to get around the problem by adding a lot of spaces between poems, then <h> horizontal lines, which are ugly and don't result in page breaks that the Sony Reader counter recognizes. Since I want to publish it on Amazon, which requires 20 pages minimum I'm in a bind.

I also put in the WordPerfect created html file, prior to using Calibre to generate an ePub, a Table of Contents, which works, jumping from the TOC to the title of each poem, but without effecting page count:
<a href="#sectionname">Title</a>
<h4 id="sectionname">Title</h4>

I've read the several previous messages related to pagination and the documents at the links, all beyond my level of competence.

Anyone have a suggestion or trick that would work?

Thanks,

Fred

[Sabardeyn]

Fglaysher,

I cannot recommend anything like an official "best practice" to use, but you came close to my recommendation, below.

Instead of using the TOC with an href (anchor) to one spot in a larger html document (which is what you did), I would suggest putting each poem on its own page. Since you are planning to release this as an epub anyway, you might want to take a look at Sigil which will due exactly what you want. It is simple enough to use and should take about 15 minutes to do everything you want.

Poetry layouts are probably impossible without extensive use of commands / CSS. Even then I'm doubtful of the display / output.

[fglaysher]

Originally Posted by Sabardeyn

Fglaysher, Instead of using the TOC with an href (anchor) to one spot in a larger html document (which is what you did), I would suggest putting each poem on its own page. Since you are planning to release this as an epub anyway, you might want to take a look at Sigil which will due exactly what you want. It is simple enough to use and should take about 15 minutes to do everything you want.

Poetry layouts are probably impossible without extensive use of commands / CSS. Even then I'm doubtful of the display / output.

Thanks for the suggestion. I just installed Sigil and have open my html file. If I understand you correctly, I use the Insert Chapter Break button to create pages for each poem.

The poetry layouts don't seem to be a problem. The lines are all to the Left, and I'm only indenting to the right three times.

I'll try it all and report back. Thanks,
Fred

[fglaysher]

Thanks for suggesting Sigil. It seems to have worked really well and did break the eChapbook up into pages nicely on my Sony Reader. I kept with the TOC with the internal links since I seem to have figured that one out, I hope... They work fine, it seems.

How transferable should the ePub file be for other devices?

Fred

[itimpi]

Epubs should be highly portable between devices/readers supporting the ePub format.

[Sabardeyn]

The epub format is where the book industry, as a whole, is currently headed. It can be used by the consumer, or as an intermediary format for hardware ereaders that have customized book formats (Kindle, Sony, etc).

Like HTML, it might undergo some changes as the standard is improved to handle new features required by different types of books (poetry, textbooks, math formulas, etc). Allways getting a bit more polished and functional.

[Kepe]

Hi
I have rtf files, and I convert it to epub file.
Problem is that, in the rtf file are images, and the image will be very small
if I convert the rtf to epub format. Where can I setup my image sizes?
Thanks
I use calibre