Top Publishers and Sony Support New Digital Publishing Experience (Digital Editions) - Page 2

JSWolf · 06-19-2007, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

BTW it also implies the presence of Macromedia Flash that is the display part of DE.

I had installed some beta version. Then went to look at one of Adobe's free books and it told me I needed to upgrade. So I did and it crashed. It is going to crash on the Sony?

NatCh · 06-19-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

The thing that concerns me is that judging by adobe's track record they'll provide cross platform reader software but to create/convert to this format will require a commercial non cross platform application, which just sucks.

But that model clearly worked with PDF, and things are a bit different these days: there are already other companies making apps to create Adobe documents -- I would expect them to jump on making DE doc creation apps just as soon as they can. Unless there's something stopping them that I don't know about.

yvanleterrible · 06-19-2007, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

I had installed some beta version. Then went to look at one of Adobe's free books and it told me I needed to upgrade. So I did and it crashed. It is going to crash on the Sony?

I just crashed it too. I tried to download the latest version since mine was already 3 months and POOP! there it goes...

kovidgoyal · 06-19-2007, 02:23 PM

Yeah but again all those apps tend to be commercial, closed source windows/OSX only.

NatCh · 06-19-2007, 02:25 PM

Ah, now I see what you're saying, kovidgoyal .... Yeah, that is a pain.

yvanleterrible · 06-19-2007, 02:30 PM

DE's there to renew interest in PDF. To get more sales for Acrobat Pro?
We here know of turnabouts if we need to create PDF outpout but someone in the corporate world will just buy A. Pro

NatCh · 06-19-2007, 02:39 PM

I dunno, yvanleterrible, could be, but they really seem to be trying to do something different with it.

I just downloaded and installed DE without a hitch. It opened a downloaded book just fine as well, and a PDF I had handy too.

Maybe try removing the beta DE and installing fresh?

Hadrien · 06-19-2007, 02:49 PM

We can expect Mobipocket to be based on this pretty soon. And Digital Editions will be available not only on reading devices, but also smartphones and PDA.

I guess the choice is pretty clear: that's the second format that we'll support on Feedbooks. With an output for both PDF and EPub, we'll work a bit like a web service version of InDesign (the goal for Adobe is to output PDF when fixed size is needed and EPub when a flexible format is needed).

JSWolf · 06-19-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

I dunno, yvanleterrible, could be, but they really seem to be trying to do something different with it.

I just downloaded and installed DE without a hitch. It opened a downloaded book just fine as well, and a PDF I had handy too.

Maybe try removing the beta DE and installing fresh?

Good idea. Here goes. But I am not rebooting.

yvanleterrible · 06-19-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

I dunno, yvanleterrible, could be, but they really seem to be trying to do something different with it.

I just downloaded and installed DE without a hitch. It opened a downloaded book just fine as well, and a PDF I had handy too.

Maybe try removing the beta DE and installing fresh?

Then, asides from licensing where will the money come from? Will it cover R&D?

BTW removing previous copy of DE did not help, might have to try a restart.

igorsk · 06-19-2007, 03:03 PM

Try removing %appdata%\Adobe before reinstalling. That's where it keeps DRM data.
BTW, I noticed that so far all DRMed books are PDF only. Are they going to support DRM for epub/xhtml?

NatCh · 06-19-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hadrien

We can expect Mobipocket to be based on this pretty soon.

That would be excellent, because that would effectively be another format merger. But I've got to ask what makes you expect Mobi to go to DE -- what have I missed?

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Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Then, asides from licensing where will the money come from? Will it cover R&D?

Perhaps it might come from selling the DE creation software to publishers and other big companies? That's more on the order of a WAG than anything.

Either way, it shouldn't hurt PDF any.

NatCh · 06-19-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by igorsk

BTW, I noticed that so far all DRMed books are PDF only. Are they going to support DRM for epub/xhtml?

I think that the ability to support DRM is part of the OEBS standard, isn't it? If Sony is interested in it, I'd expect that DRM of some sort must be at least possible.

I'd guess the biggest reason that the only DRM'd books it's working with at the moment is that PDF DRM is the only one they've had to work with during the development.

yvanleterrible · 06-19-2007, 03:09 PM

Where would I find that igorsk ?

Hadrien · 06-19-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NatCh

That would be excellent, because that would effectively be another format merger. But I've got to ask what makes you expect Mobi to go to DE -- what have I missed?

http://www.mobipocket.com/forum/view...ghlight=oebzip

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06-19-2007, 02:23 PM	#19
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,604 Karma: 28548974 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Yeah but again all those apps tend to be commercial, closed source windows/OSX only.

06-19-2007, 02:25 PM	#20
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Ah, now I see what you're saying, kovidgoyal .... Yeah, that is a pain.

06-19-2007, 02:30 PM	#21
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	DE's there to renew interest in PDF. To get more sales for Acrobat Pro? We here know of turnabouts if we need to create PDF outpout but someone in the corporate world will just buy A. Pro

06-19-2007, 02:39 PM	#22
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I dunno, yvanleterrible, could be, but they really seem to be trying to do something different with it. I just downloaded and installed DE without a hitch. It opened a downloaded book just fine as well, and a PDF I had handy too. Maybe try removing the beta DE and installing fresh?

06-19-2007, 02:49 PM	#23
Hadrien Feedbooks.com Co-Founder Posts: 2,263 Karma: 145123 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Paris, France Device: Sony PRS-t-1/350/300/500/505/600/700, Nexus S, iPad	We can expect Mobipocket to be based on this pretty soon. And Digital Editions will be available not only on reading devices, but also smartphones and PDA. I guess the choice is pretty clear: that's the second format that we'll support on Feedbooks. With an output for both PDF and EPub, we'll work a bit like a web service version of InDesign (the goal for Adobe is to output PDF when fixed size is needed and EPub when a flexible format is needed).

06-19-2007, 03:03 PM	#26
igorsk Wizard Posts: 3,442 Karma: 300001 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Belgium Device: PRS-500/505/700, Kindle, Cybook Gen3, Words Gear	Try removing %appdata%\Adobe before reinstalling. That's where it keeps DRM data. BTW, I noticed that so far all DRMed books are PDF only. Are they going to support DRM for epub/xhtml?

06-19-2007, 03:09 PM	#29
yvanleterrible Reborn Paper User Posts: 8,616 Karma: 15446734 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Que Nada Device: iPhone8, iPad Air	Where would I find that igorsk ?