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Old 01-15-2010, 01:03 PM   #31
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The Spanish newspaper El País reports this news too, it also mentions other languages (probably Spanish) are coming in the following months, and shows a picture of a Kindle with a colour screen



Should this be called "deceptive advertising"?
Probably why we can't get anymore refurbished K's!~


They've gone color!!!
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This is a good development. Here's the current non-English language distribution for Kindle books, and it shows how lopsided the current Kindle store is:

French: 1293
Spanish: 1282
German: 780
Italian: 142
Portugese: 87
Latin: 26
Dutch: 17

To put things in perspective, FeedBooks has 790 French books. However, as wallcraft said above, this is also about opening up DTP to other countries - which could also mean many more new self-published English books.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:38 PM   #33
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But the universe of languages can be and already are accommodated by the Epub format.
First you declare ePub can do this, then in another post you hedge by saying if HTML cam do it then ePub can. Uh huh.

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Instead, Amazon took the nonstep of expanding it to 2 more languages. Whoop-de-friggin'-do.
There's your opportunity to go into the business and produce a better product instead of just sitting there gripping. And no, I don't own a Kindle.
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Old 01-15-2010, 03:44 PM   #34
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Well doing right-to-left is a breeze. Just make sure the text is that way. And if need be, I'm sure someone can write a program that can take the text and reverse it for left-to-right reading.

As for column type text, that is a lot harder to do with reflow.
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There's your opportunity to go into the business and produce a better product instead of just sitting there gripping. And no, I don't own a Kindle.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:12 PM   #36
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First you declare ePub can do this, then in another post you hedge by saying if HTML cam do it then ePub can. Uh huh.
If you had bothered to do any research you would know that Epub is basically html in a zip file. My 2 statements are semantically equivalent.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:55 PM   #37
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Yes, people (who speak Japanese) can certainly read it either way. But for whatever it's worth, all the fiction books I've seen have been written top-to-bottom, right-to-left (tategaki).
My favourite fact about Japanese writing: there exists tategaki which is one character high, which means it's effectively horizontal, right-to-left. You'll see this on the side of trucks, for example: left-to-right on the left side of the truck, and right-to-left on the right side. The Japanese have to be insanely flexible in their reading ability!
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The Japanese have to be insanely flexible in their reading ability!
ahahaha..it also seems to be second nature-after seeing this topic, I asked my wife if the "left to right across/front to back" format was getting more common-she first said "yes, they use both a lot-mostly classics are right to left/back to front, but more modern stuff may be either"..but we glanced at her pile of current fashion/food/style magazines, popular novels, and other japanese reading material she gets sent to her..all of it is down/right to left/ back to front format!
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My favourite fact about Japanese writing: there exists tategaki which is one character high, which means it's effectively horizontal, right-to-left. You'll see this on the side of trucks, for example: left-to-right on the left side of the truck, and right-to-left on the right side. The Japanese have to be insanely flexible in their reading ability!
That is the same with Chinese in Taiwan. Signs are completely random left to right or right to left. Classical texts are in columns, starting top right. And most books and magazines are still written that way, "starting from the back cover". But in China they have standardized everything left to right in horizontal lines.
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My favourite fact about Japanese writing: there exists tategaki which is one character high, which means it's effectively horizontal, right-to-left. ... The Japanese have to be insanely flexible in their reading ability!
Very true! It would drive me crazy trying to read English with the letters in any other order than left-to-right, but in Japan they seem to read and write any which way. (Except I've never seen bottom-to-top; it wouldn't surprise me, though...)
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I had a quick look - you still had to give a US bank account (and tax info) it seems - or you could get a cheque. Maybe they have still to sort that out?
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How long before they scrap mobi altogether and go with something a bit more advanced?
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Amazon's next big evolution is the iKindles, so they needed to do that.
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If you had bothered to do any research you would know that Epub is basically html in a zip file. My 2 statements are semantically equivalent.
Yes, but my question was whether HTML does support top to bottom writing. I honestly can't recall ever having seen it.
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How long before they scrap mobi altogether and go with something a bit more advanced?
Why should they improve mobi, when ePub is already there ?
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