Apple Tablet -- Who needs it?

[yvanleterrible]

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Heh Sonist. It'll do video great, I'm sure. But I think you missed the savage critique of anything e-reader related Apple did a while back (because they don't currently have control of the ebooks market). I'm expecting no native reader for ePub, for starters...

That's what you want me to root for? Heh. Not to mention the right platform is a $99 reader, not a $999 tablet.

There was an interview with Jobs some time last year where he said that aPple would never make a dedicated book reader. Most of aPple products are multitasking device and this one will be too. Still, the size of it plus the Touch zooming interface would make for an interesting magazine reader; not a book reader...

Originally Posted by delphidb96

The only Apple product I own - or have owned - is my 1st-gen iPod Touch. Still, if I could not find an equal device among the other new tablet offerings, *I* would buy one - and be happy to have it.

Derek

Honest answer Derek.
Although most of us hate aPple's closed loops, overprices and snotty reactions, through the eyes of a simple user we have to give them credit for making nice toys with interesting novelty features.

[Sonist]

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

... Still, the size of it plus the Touch zooming interface would make for an interesting magazine reader; not a book reader..."

Huh? Why not a book reader?

Even at 11" diagonal, the screen would be smaller than a hardcover (which is over 13" diagonal.) I personally dislike reading on my 6" K2 almost as much as I dislike reading paperpacks. The K DX is way better, but still, far from perfect.

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

... Although most of us hate aPple's closed loops, overprices and snotty reactions, through the eyes of a simple user we have to give them credit for making nice toys with interesting novelty features.

The above is as insulting to us "simple users," as my pointing out that most people who profess to "hate aPple," live in their mother's basement and sweat profusely, when in the presence of a pretty girl (or a sleek Apple product.)

[yvanleterrible]

Originally Posted by Sonist

Huh? Why not a book reader?

Even at 11" diagonal, the screen would be smaller than a hardcover (which is over 13" diagonal.) I personally dislike reading on my 6" K2 almost as much as I dislike reading paperpacks. The K DX is way better, but still, far from perfect.

Why not a book reader? It will do the job but I expect it to have an LCD screen.
I use an EEE once in a while to read and It's not quite pleasing to the eye. Ever tried watching a movie on an iPod? I definitely will not repeat that.

And then there's the battery time we know nothing of. But mainly, eink is better suited to books. And since I have one...

Originally Posted by Sonist

The above is as insulting to us "simple users," as my pointing out that most people who profess to "hate aPple," live in their mother's basement and sweat profusely, when in the presence of a pretty girl (or a sleek Apple product.)

No need to be touchy, I'm a simple user, with absolutely no programming experience, that's what I meant.
I have used aPple products since 198* with the first LC20 and I cursed at them as much as Windows and Linux.

Oh, and I've been married for 31 years so I have no use fer my parent's basement and that lovely girl she's my daughter and a mod on this site.


And why is this d***** place always considered a war zone anyhow?

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by Sonist

The above is as insulting to us "simple users," as my pointing out that most people who profess to "hate aPple," live in their mother's basement and sweat profusely, when in the presence of a pretty girl (or a sleek Apple product.)

The above is an insult to use who don't like Apple products. My mother never had a basement, and I've never sweeted profusely when in the presence of a pretty girl (now, a handsome man, that might be a different thing...). And not only Apple makes sleek products. Besides, that depends all on taste.

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

And then there's the battery time we know nothing of. But mainly, eink is better suited to books. And since I have one...

....

And why is this d***** place always considered a war zone anyhow?

The same reason as why you made that comment above, that e-ink is better suited to books. I would like to disagree with that. I have books that would do worse on e-ink readers than on LCD readers. Simply because colour is used. Not for images, but functional colours. One of those books is the "Neverending Story" by Michael Ende. This book is written with two colours. Blue for the "real" world, red for the "Fantasia" world. I scanned this book some time ago and wanted to see how it looked on my Mini. It turns out, it's almost impossible to read due to lack of contrast (the red is almost impossible to see...).

So, statements like that: "one is better than the other" will always bring out defensive reactions. Correct would be "I find the one better than the other", or "The one is a lot of times better than the other (but not always)". More people would agree and less defensive reactions will be given.

So, a tablet (no matter who makes it) might be the best ereading device for one while another will think it's the worst.

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Why not a book reader? It will do the job but I expect it to have an LCD screen.
I use an EEE once in a while to read and It's not quite pleasing to the eye. Ever tried watching a movie on an iPod? I definitely will not repeat that.

And then there's the battery time we know nothing of. But mainly, eink is better suited to books. And since I have one...


No need to be touchy, I'm a simple user, with absolutely no programming experience, that's what I meant.
I have used aPple products since 198* with the first LC20 and I cursed at them as much as Windows and Linux.

Oh, and I've been married for 31 years so I have no use fer my parent's basement and that lovely girl she's my daughter and a mod on this site.


And why is this d***** place always considered a war zone anyhow?

Apple sometimes does bring out the worst in people. I was just told that I would have to pay the equivalent of USD 300.- (in Hong Kong) for a new phone for exchange just because the WiFi module on my 3G went dead 2 months out of warranty. They refuse to repair it, they just stick it to you this way. Well, they can bet that this phone was the last money I ever spent on an Apple product. Given the money I spend on computers and technical gadgets they don't know what they are missing out on. So all I can say is, run!

[yvanleterrible]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

The same reason as why you made that comment above, that e-ink is better suited to books. I would like to disagree with that. I have books that would do worse on e-ink readers than on LCD readers. Simply because colour is used. Not for images, but functional colours. One of those books is the "Neverending Story" by Michael Ende. This book is written with two colours. Blue for the "real" world, red for the "Fantasia" world. I scanned this book some time ago and wanted to see how it looked on my Mini. It turns out, it's almost impossible to read due to lack of contrast (the red is almost impossible to see...).

So, statements like that: "one is better than the other" will always bring out defensive reactions. Correct would be "I find the one better than the other", or "The one is a lot of times better than the other (but not always)". More people would agree and less defensive reactions will be given.

So, a tablet (no matter who makes it) might be the best ereading device for one while another will think it's the worst.

Very good comments.
I usually read paperback scifi, so eink is plenty for me. I was guilty of assumption there...

I also have a lot of coffe table books that need a reader too, maybe a tablet with Touch zooming would do wonders there, just imagine the size of a document for high-rez pictures. Question is will that tablet have high capacity storage? An iPod Touch is clearly lacking that at this point.

[mores]

I agree. They really should offer a lifetime warranty incl. upgrades to newer models.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

I was just told that I would have to pay the equivalent of USD 300.- (in Hong Kong) for a new phone for exchange just because the WiFi module on my 3G went dead 2 months out of warranty. They refuse to repair it, they just stick it to you this way.

Thank god Amazon, Nokia, and Motorola fix and replace stuff out of warranty for free.

[WillAdams]

At least Apple offers the option of purchasing AppleCare extended warranties, so one has an option if the device replacement is not affordable (so long as one is pro-active).

William

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by WillAdams

At least Apple offers the option of purchasing AppleCare extended warranties, so one has an option if the device replacement is not affordable (so long as one is pro-active).

William

You know, offering those kinds of warranties generally give me a good reason not to buy the product... How should I trust their product if they don't even do it? I expect my products to work at least 3 years. If they don't, I'll never buy the brand again. (unless it's my own stupid fault, and that's not covered by the AppleCare extra warranty, I just checked, as I have "drowned" two mobile phones [I think that would be a too high humidity...] by accident, or if it's something so cheap you don't even want to bother with warranty...)

[DawnFalcon]

Originally Posted by WillAdams

At least Apple offers the option of purchasing AppleCare extended warranties, so one has an option if the device replacement is not affordable (so long as one is pro-active).

If you're in the UK, you have the standard 6 year protection. So...

[Penforhire]

Apple sure is a polarizing topic!

I'm still a Win-tel PC user but I have come to appreciate some Apple products. I got sucked in with an early iPod, which was the best device I could buy at the time. I was impressed with the design and even the box it came in! You could say packaging should not affect me but presentation of a device does affect opinion, just as it does for a meal. I got my iPhone 3G when it was, again, the best device available.

Apple is not perfect but they get more things right than wrong. I appreciate the out-of-the-box experience with Apple products compared to their competiton. Maybe I just drank too much of the Kool-aid.

[yvanleterrible]

Actually, the topic is not aPple, it's a rumor about a tablet they may or may not make.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by yvanleterrible

Actually, the topic is not aPple, it's a rumor about a tablet they may or may not make.

Why is Apple always spelled aPple?

[kjk]

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

If you're in the UK, you have the standard 6 year protection. So...

I wonder what it would take for the US to get even a year guaranteed on all purchases.