Sony Reader outside US - Page 11

bojan · 06-11-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbo

If I had bought it from B&H it would have come to $380.00 including $81 shipping so it was only $33 more from ebay ,I can deal with that....

So the price is down to 298$ from previously 350$ at B&H, good to know!

Leaping Gnome · 06-11-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Why why why? are you paying more for it then it's sold for in the USA? You are buying your Sony Reader from a SCAM artist. Everyone who puts up a Sony Reader on ebay for more then it cost is SCAMMING you. You got taken big time. You got ripped off. I'm sorry, but never ever purchase a Sony Reader from anyone on ebay. I bet the listers don't even have the Reader. They get your money, go buy one and then keep the profit. They sell them for MORE THEN THEN SHOPS SELL THEM FOR!

Wow. Yeah, never by from eBay, it's all scam artists. They are totally screwing you over by selling a product for $63 more over the retail price while including international shipping and sales tax and shipping it to a country where they are not sold.

Dr. Rustom · 06-11-2007, 06:53 PM

I had my PSR-500, but I couldnt download the gift from Connect, coz outside US, and coz Syria not very good relations with US (they blocked our IP sometimes). I have to solve this problem, and I do it, I use a computer linked to the internet via UN, so that Connect thought I am American... and download the 150 $ books gift. I hope some of u find this way useful....

NatCh · 06-11-2007, 07:16 PM

Welcome to MobileRead, Dr. Rustom!

That's a very clever solution! I'm glad you shared it with us, I expect that some others may be able to make use of that little trick.

JSWolf · 06-11-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leaping Gnome

Wow. Yeah, never by from eBay, it's all scam artists. They are totally screwing you over by selling a product for $63 more over the retail price while including international shipping and sales tax and shipping it to a country where they are not sold.

And I doubt they'd send you a receipt for it as well so if it breaks during the warranty period, you are screwed. I mean right now you can probably find someone int he US to handle sending it to Sony for you. as long as you pay all the costs and have a receipt. But buying from ebay, you have no receipt. Yea, it may be brand new, but did they sellers say you'd get a receipt for it that was valid to use for the warranty? I think not.

HarryT · 06-12-2007, 02:41 AM

Good grief, Jon - not everyone on eBay is a con merchant! I bought my Reader on eBay for "over the odds" and was happy to do so. Nobody forced me to buy it - it was my personal decision to do so. Both me and the seller end up happy. Everybody wins.

athlonkmf · 06-12-2007, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

And I doubt they'd send you a receipt for it as well so if it breaks during the warranty period, you are screwed. I mean right now you can probably find someone int he US to handle sending it to Sony for you. as long as you pay all the costs and have a receipt. But buying from ebay, you have no receipt. Yea, it may be brand new, but did they sellers say you'd get a receipt for it that was valid to use for the warranty? I think not.

You're right on that. It's a gamble for me too, but I usually buy them without warranty in mind anyway. I mean, if I import it through a real store, I'd still be paying a lot of mailing costs if something is to happen. That'd easily go into the hundreds of dollar (sending it to the store, and them sending it back) so...

And besides, a lot of companies who only sell their products in certain part of the world, won't give warranty to other continents if they're not sold through regular channels.

HarryT · 06-12-2007, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by athlonkmf

And besides, a lot of companies who only sell their products in certain part of the world, won't give warranty to other continents if they're not sold through regular channels.

You're right. Sony UK wouldn't touch the Reader, because it's only sold in the US. If it went wrong I'd have to pay to send it for repair in the US, and it wouldn't be a warranty repair.

astra · 06-12-2007, 05:17 AM

Guys, the real scum is in Moscow. They sell the reader for $600!!! and you know what? There are people who prefer to pay the price instead of buying it on bhphoto

On other other hand
JSWolf

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Why why why? are you paying more for it then it's sold for in the USA?

anyone outside of the USA has no choice but pay more if we want to have the reader. I mean I bought it on bhphoto for $350 but...I had to pay $41 for delivery and $85 local tax. We don't have much choice, do we?

Can you suggest a better solution?

I am ears!

NatCh · 06-12-2007, 11:27 AM

If you're going to import anything from another country, you're going to pay a premium -- just ask the folks in the U.S. who have Libriés -- so you basically have your choice of who you pay that premium to.

JSWolf · 06-12-2007, 11:40 AM

There is one choice, find someone on the forum (who lives in the USA) whom you feel you trust enough to buy a Reader for you and send it over. The person on the forum is probably not going to be out to make a profit.

At say $299 with 5% tax and $85 to ship, the reader would only cost $398.95. And that's without making any profit. And the person who purchased the reader would have the receipt and if it broke, you'd be able to send it back to the purchaser to send to Sony for warranty repair.

But again, you do take a risk that said person is not going to run away with your money. Of course if you want some recourse, have that person put a bid up on ebay for the reader and then buy it there and you will have some recourse just in case.

HarryT · 06-12-2007, 11:41 AM

Those of us who live in Europe are used to the idea that we will pay more for things than people in the US do - it's just the way things are. I paid the equivalent of about US$620 for my Reader, and was happy to do so. For me, it's worth that, although I appreciate that it might not be for everyone.

astra · 06-12-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

There is one choice, find someone on the forum (who lives in the USA) whom you feel you trust enough to buy a Reader for you and send it over. The person on the forum is probably not going to be out to make a profit.

At say $299 with 5% tax and $85 to ship, the reader would only cost $398.95. And that's without making any profit. And the person who purchased the reader would have the receipt and if it broke, you'd be able to send it back to the purchaser to send to Sony for warranty repair.

But again, you do take a risk that said person is not going to run away with your money. Of course if you want some recourse, have that person put a bid up on ebay for the reader and then buy it there and you will have some recourse just in case.

People will have to pay customs tax. It is about 25% in the UK?

HarryT · 06-12-2007, 11:55 AM

VAT is 17.5% in the UK, plus 6% (I think) import duty on something like the Reader. Whether or not you pay it depends how it's shipped - if it's sent via a Courier service you'll always pay the taxes; it's it's sent by the normal postal service they may or may not collect the tax - it's pretty random.

athlonkmf · 06-12-2007, 11:57 AM

you are not always charged with customs tax. So it's all about luck.

I paid about 470 dollar for mine, including mailing through fedex, but no customs tax.

As for running it through a forum member. This takes quite long. First you have to find one person you can trust, then in some way sent money to them. (S)he has to go and buy the reader, then mail it.
This will take at least a week. I wanted mine ASAP.

06-11-2007, 06:53 PM	#153
Dr. Rustom Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jun 2007 Device: Sony Reader PRS-500	Outside US and Syrian I had my PSR-500, but I couldnt download the gift from Connect, coz outside US, and coz Syria not very good relations with US (they blocked our IP sometimes). I have to solve this problem, and I do it, I use a computer linked to the internet via UN, so that Connect thought I am American... and download the 150 $ books gift. I hope some of u find this way useful....

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NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Welcome to MobileRead, Dr. Rustom! That's a very clever solution! I'm glad you shared it with us, I expect that some others may be able to make use of that little trick.

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HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Good grief, Jon - not everyone on eBay is a con merchant! I bought my Reader on eBay for "over the odds" and was happy to do so. Nobody forced me to buy it - it was my personal decision to do so. Both me and the seller end up happy. Everybody wins.

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NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	If you're going to import anything from another country, you're going to pay a premium -- just ask the folks in the U.S. who have Libriés -- so you basically have your choice of who you pay that premium to.

06-12-2007, 11:40 AM	#161
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,756 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	There is one choice, find someone on the forum (who lives in the USA) whom you feel you trust enough to buy a Reader for you and send it over. The person on the forum is probably not going to be out to make a profit. At say $299 with 5% tax and $85 to ship, the reader would only cost $398.95. And that's without making any profit. And the person who purchased the reader would have the receipt and if it broke, you'd be able to send it back to the purchaser to send to Sony for warranty repair. But again, you do take a risk that said person is not going to run away with your money. Of course if you want some recourse, have that person put a bid up on ebay for the reader and then buy it there and you will have some recourse just in case.

06-12-2007, 11:41 AM	#162
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Those of us who live in Europe are used to the idea that we will pay more for things than people in the US do - it's just the way things are. I paid the equivalent of about US$620 for my Reader, and was happy to do so. For me, it's worth that, although I appreciate that it might not be for everyone.

06-12-2007, 11:55 AM	#164
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	VAT is 17.5% in the UK, plus 6% (I think) import duty on something like the Reader. Whether or not you pay it depends how it's shipped - if it's sent via a Courier service you'll always pay the taxes; it's it's sent by the normal postal service they may or may not collect the tax - it's pretty random.

06-12-2007, 11:57 AM	#165
athlonkmf Guru Posts: 714 Karma: 1014039 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500, Sony PRS-505, Kindle 3, Sony PRS350, iPad 64GB	you are not always charged with customs tax. So it's all about luck. I paid about 470 dollar for mine, including mailing through fedex, but no customs tax. As for running it through a forum member. This takes quite long. First you have to find one person you can trust, then in some way sent money to them. (S)he has to go and buy the reader, then mail it. This will take at least a week. I wanted mine ASAP.