Introducing the Bebook Neo

[polly]

Originally Posted by John F

Not to pick on redbaron, but I don't see the benefit of swiping, other then as an initial universal UI interaction. After my first hour with a book reader, I just want to be able to hold the reader with one hand, and with my thumb be able able to turn the page with a simple press. This seems ideal for reading to me.

If there was no bezel and only screen, I would want to be able to simply tap the screen (with my thumb) to turn the page.

IMO.

Lots of people have thumbs that don't work as well as they ought. Rocker switches and screen swipes are much more user friendly for us. A tap on the screen would work, but buttons...

[John F]

Originally Posted by polly

Lots of people have thumbs that don't work as well as they ought. Rocker switches and screen swipes are much more user friendly for us. A tap on the screen would work, but buttons...

That's fine, make it configurable, I'll bet you a $0.10 that most heavy readers that have fully functional appendages would not choose swipe. I'm not sure what a rocker switch is, but I look at a Kindle and get page turn envy (I have a 505).

[Marcy]

Originally Posted by John F

That's fine, make it configurable, I'll bet you a $0.10 that most heavy readers that have fully functional appendages would not choose swipe. I'm not sure what a rocker switch is, but I look at a Kindle and get page turn envy (I have a 505).

I hate the Kindle page turning. My first reader was a Kindle 1 and my second reader was a Kindle 2. My Kindle 1 is gathering dust somewhere in my nightstand and I gave the second to my Dad. My third and current reader is a PRS-600 and I absolutely love it, even with the glare issue in low light.

The Kindle 1 had a horrid page turn design with the huge buttons on both sides. I was constantly turning the pages by accident and frequently I would put it down and not realize one of the buttons was being pushed by something next to it on the table, and myself at the end of the book when I next picked it up. The Kindle 2's buttons were not convenient for my hand and I always found it uncomfortable.

I love swiping the PRS-600. Depending on how I'm situated I either hold and swipe with the same hand, using my thumb to swipe, or hold with one and swipe with the other. I don't find it intrusive to use 2 hands -- after all that's how I hold a pbook, use one to hold and the other to turn the page.

At first I hated it because Sony by default has the swipes set to what I consider the opposite of intuitive, but once I discovered I could switch the direction I was happy as a pig in feces. Well I also hated it because their software is a useless piece of crap, but then I discovered Calibre and all was good.

-Marcy

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by John F

That's fine, make it configurable, I'll bet you a $0.10 that most heavy readers that have fully functional appendages would not choose swipe. I'm not sure what a rocker switch is, but I look at a Kindle and get page turn envy (I have a 505).

a rocker switch looks a bit like a turn wheel, except that it is not a wheel. It generally has a small appendage on it for better grip. You push it back and forth ("rocking") to change pages. It's an awesome way of changing pages, I'd say. The only drawback on the Mini is the location... I'd have loved to have it in the left side of the device (like I have on my PDA...)

[micromirko]

Hi everybody.

Now that iRex DR800 is much too expensive (announced $399,- now: EUR 499,-) and the Skiff ist much too big and expensive the Onyx Boox / Bebook Neo seems to be the only alternative.

Great work !!!!!!!!!!!!!! and running !!!

What i'd like to know: I heard about that someday there probably will be a 8" Display Device available - but i cannot find anything about it.

So please: Is there any information available about that ?

[Jumpn Jack Flash]

Originally Posted by micromirko

Hi everybody.

Now that iRex DR800 is much too expensive (announced $399,- now: EUR 499,-) and the Skiff ist much too big and expensive the Onyx Boox / Bebook Neo seems to be the only alternative.

Great work !!!!!!!!!!!!!! and running !!!

What i'd like to know: I heard about that someday there probably will be a 8" Display Device available - but i cannot find anything about it.

So please: Is there any information available about that ?

I asked in this thread https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=59781&page=5 see the last post ( do not know how to do a link to get to the post directly )

but here is Mike's response

Onyx is planning to release many new versions of the Boox including a 10" and a 8" within the first or second quarters of 2010.

Onyx is also coming out with a 5" version with features closer to the popular Sony 600 and the Kindle to compete with them except with a lower price.

[John F]

Originally Posted by Sweetpea

a rocker switch looks a bit like a turn wheel, except that it is not a wheel. It generally has a small appendage on it for better grip. You push it back and forth ("rocking") to change pages. It's an awesome way of changing pages, I'd say. The only drawback on the Mini is the location... I'd have loved to have it in the left side of the device (like I have on my PDA...)

Could you give the full name of the device, I'd like to see a rocker?

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by John F

Could you give the full name of the device, I'd like to see a rocker?

BeBook Mini (or Hanlin v5 or Pocket Pro)

[John F]

Originally Posted by Marcy

...

I love swiping the PRS-600. Depending on how I'm situated I either hold and swipe with the same hand, using my thumb to swipe, or hold with one and swipe with the other. I don't find it intrusive to use 2 hands -- after all that's how I hold a pbook, use one to hold and the other to turn the page.

...

I don't want to have to use two hands. If I could swipe with my thumb, that may work. When I tried a 600 in the store, the swipe seemed quirky. But why swipe, when a simple tap would be easier?

Looking at the PocketPro, I'm not sure I would like the rocker (it's the black knob on the right side?). The two buttons on the front left look ideal to me, the placement looks just about perfect. I don't like the buttons on my 505, they are too hard to press.

Just to reiterate my stance , I want something that maximizes my reading, and for me that is reading fiction, so simple page forward page turns is the goal; Touch screen that sacrifices reading clarity is a turn off, a UI that sacrifices simple page turns is a turn off.

[Sweetpea]

Originally Posted by John F

I don't want to have to use two hands. If I could swipe with my thumb, that may work. When I tried a 600 in the store, the swipe seemed quirky. But why swipe, when a simple tap would be easier?

Looking at the PocketPro, I'm not sure I would like the rocker (it's the black knob on the right side?). The two buttons on the front left look ideal to me, the placement looks just about perfect. I don't like the buttons on my 505, they are too hard to press.

Just to reiterate my stance , I want something that maximizes my reading, and for me that is reading fiction, so simple page forward page turns is the goal; Touch screen that sacrifices reading clarity is a turn off, a UI that sacrifices simple page turns is a turn off.

I like the fact that it has 3 options to turn pages. No matter how I hold it, there's always a way to easily turn a page (though I generally use the 9 and 0 buttons).

I could use taps on my JE-100 (LCD, windows ce), but I've turned it off. I prefer buttons.

[Dulin's Books]

Originally Posted by Marcy

At first I hated it because Sony by default has the swipes set to what I consider the opposite of intuitive, but once I discovered I could switch the direction I was happy as a pig in feces.

-Marcy

Every time i go by a Sony reader any where i go up and change that setting its clearly wrong by default and drives me nuts. I think it comes from a web centric view where people are "paging" forward rather than a paper perspective.

When Plastic Logic showed their device a year and a half ago they had it the same way as Sony. I talked to them about how it was opposite of how you turn a physical page. They changed the default and allow the user to pick which way now

[micromirko]

Onyx is planning to release many new versions of the Boox including a 10" and a 8" within the first or second quarters of 2010.

Well that's what i wanted to hear !!! I hope there will be a 8" Device and not only a 10" for 'Business Users'

[MikeOnyx]

Originally Posted by micromirko

Well that's what i wanted to hear !!! I hope there will be a 8" Device and not only a 10" for 'Business Users'

The 8 inch will be the next version to be released.

[menelic]

Great news! MikeOnyx, if you already know that the 8" will be the frst to be released, could you be a bit more specific as to when that might happen? Given the slew of new devices with larger screens, I'm sure many people who are looking forward to an 8" device which promises the ideal balance btwn portability and readability of pdfs would appreciate a definite statement, even if it just specifies the quarter of release. Please let us know if the new devices will have Wifi (Boox 80) or not (Boox 80 s).
Especially for the European market, where the Entourage is not yet released and where IREX will launch its nice looking, but horrendously over-priced DR800 tomorrow, this would be god to know!

[MikeOnyx]

Originally Posted by menelic

Great news! MikeOnyx, if you already know that the 8" will be the frst to be released, could you be a bit more specific as to when that might happen? Given the slew of new devices with larger screens, I'm sure many people who are looking forward to an 8" device which promises the ideal balance btwn portability and readability of pdfs would appreciate a definite statement, even if it just specifies the quarter of release. Please let us know if the new devices will have Wifi (Boox 80) or not (Boox 80 s).
Especially for the European market, where the Entourage is not yet released and where IREX will launch its nice looking, but horrendously over-priced DR800 tomorrow, this would be god to know!

It's looking more like around May. (fingers crossed)