Introducing the Bebook Neo - Page 2

bkelly · 01-09-2010, 01:44 AM

I wonder if the navigation button being labeled to show next/prev/back means that it doesn't automatically adjust to the device being turned sideways. The Opus does this, and it's very convenient to be able to advance the page using a downward press of the navigation button regardless of whether the button is on the left or right side.

MikeOnyx · 01-09-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bkelly

I wonder if the navigation button being labeled to show next/prev/back means that it doesn't automatically adjust to the device being turned sideways. The Opus does this, and it's very convenient to be able to advance the page using a downward press of the navigation button regardless of whether the button is on the left or right side.

When rotated to the side, the buttons stay the same.

MikeOnyx · 01-09-2010, 01:50 AM

When rotated to the side, the buttons stay the same.

Mr. Dalliard · 01-09-2010, 06:44 AM

Hmm. Overpriced.

HarryT · 01-09-2010, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hogan

I know what you are saying about finger swiping ... its definitely not for everyone. I'm sure lots of PRS 600 users just use the physical buttons for page turns. Its also having to use the stylus for the menu system that would put me off. I know you can probably do most of menu stuff by using the buttons but I'm a touchscreen geek.

I use the page turn buttons on my PRS-600, and never touch the screen except with the stylus. A PRS-600 with a Wacom touch-screen would be ideal for me.

Hogan · 01-09-2010, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

I use the page turn buttons on my PRS-600, and never touch the screen except with the stylus. A PRS-600 with a Wacom touch-screen would be ideal for me.

Truth be told, I'd probably eventually end up doing page turns with the buttons as well (after the novelty of touchscreen swishes wore off) but I'd definitely do the menu stuff with my fingers. I just like having the option there I guess.

On saying that, if the PocketBook 302 doesn't turn out to be as good as I thought then I may have to put my prejudices aside and go back to looking at the BeBook Neo against the PRS 600 / 900

Gino · 01-10-2010, 11:00 AM

I (just) own the Onyx Boox, the black seem quite good. I can only compare to my previously owned Irex. (If you ever go to a beach with an ereading device...remember they are not waterproof!!

)

I've got the new 1.2.1 firmware installed. And it already includes the fixes (e.a. Wifi) that Bebook claims to have fixed, so I guess the device is basically the same (except for the integrated store). I picked it up for €339.

I've got a discount code for a €10 discount for those interested in the device: 1200148QP60ONYXBOOX (ebookreaderdiscounter.com)

NASCARaddicted · 01-10-2010, 05:13 PM

I hope they also release a black version. In white it looks too much like an iPod or an iPhone ... and I can't stand any of them.

I liked the design of the extinct Bebook 2 better. Basically I wouldn't care much about it at all, but since about an hour ago, my Bebook 1 is having issues with the display. I guess I have to send it in ...

bwaldron · 01-10-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NASCARaddicted

I hope they also release a black version. In white it looks too much like an iPod or an iPhone ... and I can't stand any of them.

I also prefer a black/dark frame -- it makes one perceive the e-ink screen as closer to white.

redbaron101 · 01-12-2010, 09:37 AM

i wouldnt knock finger swiping - i first played around with a touch screen itouch as a novelty, but got so hooked I bought the first gen iphone when it was released.

Having used it now for a long time I think swiping is excellent - the only thing i would say is it would be nice to have a marriage between touch screen in addition to physical buttons - number of times I hung up on a caller by accidently pressing the phone to my ear, or having frozen fingers trying to desperately take my gloves off just to answer the phone!

Obviously you wont have this problem, unless you fall asleep on your eReader :-) , but I think their is merit with finger swiping.

As an ardent fan of my now very out of date palm T3 I also use stylus and its no biggie other than loosing your stylus (I always tend to put my nintendo ds stylus down and forget to slot it back in), so i think stylus would work as well, altho for comfort reading, it was much easier using swipe on iphone, or buttons/wheel on my bebook.

John F · 01-12-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by redbaron101

i wouldnt knock finger swiping - i first played around with a touch screen itouch as a novelty, but got so hooked I bought the first gen iphone when it was released.

Having used it now for a long time I think swiping is excellent - the only thing i would say is it would be nice to have a marriage between touch screen in addition to physical buttons - number of times I hung up on a caller by accidently pressing the phone to my ear, or having frozen fingers trying to desperately take my gloves off just to answer the phone!

Obviously you wont have this problem, unless you fall asleep on your eReader :-) , but I think their is merit with finger swiping. As an ardent fan of my now very out of date palm T3 I also use stylus and its no biggie other than loosing your stylus (I always tend to put my nintendo ds stylus down and forget to slot it back in)

Not to pick on redbaron, but I don't see the benefit of swiping, other then as an initial universal UI interaction. After my first hour with a book reader, I just want to be able to hold the reader with one hand, and with my thumb be able able to turn the page with a simple press. This seems ideal for reading to me.

If there was no bezel and only screen, I would want to be able to simply tap the screen (with my thumb) to turn the page.

IMO.

bkelly · 01-12-2010, 02:34 PM

I'm also not a fan of swiping, but I wouldn't mind being able to touch a corner of the screen to change the page, or even to activate the options menu. If the screen were logically divided into 4 sections, then the two sections on the "bottom" (as determined by the internal sensor) could be used for back/forward, while the two sections on the "top" could be used for menu/user-defined. Of course, the user should be able to assign an action to all 4 "logical buttons", not just one.

MikeOnyx · 01-12-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by netseeker

Sorry, i don't know that (yet).

.......

netseeker · 01-12-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeOnyx

Well, whatever price Bebook has for retail, Onyx will match it, so it won't really matter.

Was that a promise?

Dulin's Books · 01-12-2010, 06:35 PM

It's a promise from me

01-09-2010, 01:50 AM	#18
MikeOnyx OnyxBoox Sales Posts: 140 Karma: 552380 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Device: Onyx Boox	When rotated to the side, the buttons stay the same. Last edited by MikeOnyx; 01-21-2010 at 10:25 PM.

01-12-2010, 09:37 AM	#25
redbaron101 Zealot Posts: 121 Karma: 24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: uk Device: palm t3, iphone, bebook (hanlin v3 clone)	i wouldnt knock finger swiping - i first played around with a touch screen itouch as a novelty, but got so hooked I bought the first gen iphone when it was released. Having used it now for a long time I think swiping is excellent - the only thing i would say is it would be nice to have a marriage between touch screen in addition to physical buttons - number of times I hung up on a caller by accidently pressing the phone to my ear, or having frozen fingers trying to desperately take my gloves off just to answer the phone! Obviously you wont have this problem, unless you fall asleep on your eReader :-) , but I think their is merit with finger swiping. As an ardent fan of my now very out of date palm T3 I also use stylus and its no biggie other than loosing your stylus (I always tend to put my nintendo ds stylus down and forget to slot it back in), so i think stylus would work as well, altho for comfort reading, it was much easier using swipe on iphone, or buttons/wheel on my bebook. Last edited by redbaron101; 01-12-2010 at 09:41 AM.

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01-09-2010, 01:44 AM	#16
bkelly Member Posts: 13 Karma: 52 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Cybook Opus, Dell Axim X51V	I wonder if the navigation button being labeled to show next/prev/back means that it doesn't automatically adjust to the device being turned sideways. The Opus does this, and it's very convenient to be able to advance the page using a downward press of the navigation button regardless of whether the button is on the left or right side.

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Mr. Dalliard Zealot Posts: 143 Karma: 35 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Osaka, Japan Device: Kindle 3	Hmm. Overpriced.

01-10-2010, 11:00 AM	#22
Gino Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: BOOX	I (just) own the Onyx Boox, the black seem quite good. I can only compare to my previously owned Irex. (If you ever go to a beach with an ereading device...remember they are not waterproof!! ) I've got the new 1.2.1 firmware installed. And it already includes the fixes (e.a. Wifi) that Bebook claims to have fixed, so I guess the device is basically the same (except for the integrated store). I picked it up for €339. I've got a discount code for a €10 discount for those interested in the device: 1200148QP60ONYXBOOX (ebookreaderdiscounter.com)

01-10-2010, 05:13 PM	#23
NASCARaddicted Addict Posts: 340 Karma: 43106 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Germany Device: BeBook One, Pocketbook Touch, Pocketbook Touch HD	I hope they also release a black version. In white it looks too much like an iPod or an iPhone ... and I can't stand any of them. I liked the design of the extinct Bebook 2 better. Basically I wouldn't care much about it at all, but since about an hour ago, my Bebook 1 is having issues with the display. I guess I have to send it in ...

01-12-2010, 02:34 PM	#27
bkelly Member Posts: 13 Karma: 52 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Cybook Opus, Dell Axim X51V	I'm also not a fan of swiping, but I wouldn't mind being able to touch a corner of the screen to change the page, or even to activate the options menu. If the screen were logically divided into 4 sections, then the two sections on the "bottom" (as determined by the internal sensor) could be used for back/forward, while the two sections on the "top" could be used for menu/user-defined. Of course, the user should be able to assign an action to all 4 "logical buttons", not just one.

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Dulin's Books Wizard Posts: 2,806 Karma: 13500000 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Portland, OR Device: Boox PB360 etc etc etc	It's a promise from me