Plastic Logic QUE event (Thu 7:30 am PT)

[scoff]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Yea... but the DR1000S is $850US the Edge is $490. Also, the DR1000S has no WiFi. The SW model which they say will be out this summer... who knows what that will cost. The iLiad with WiFi is $300 more than the lite without.

So, even giving them the benefit of the doubt the DR1000SW will be $950. You can buy almost 2 Edge's for that. Heck, they said the 800 would be available Fall 2009 at Best Buy.. and it is nowhere to be seen.

BOb

Too true! The difference in screen size isn't big enough to justify the doubling of the price. I think you've convinced me.

[kazbates]

I got a chance to experience the Que up close and personal. It is remarkably light for it's size and very slick looking but I wasn't really that impressed. The display isn't very dark; it kind of reminded my of the display on my 700 without the glare. The print displayed on my 600 seemed darker to me although I didn't have it with me for comparison. And for the price, I would rather hold out for one of the new netbooks that are coming out. Asus has a nice little netbook with a battery life of 14 hours and it wasn't much heavier than the Que (of course, that is only my opinion and not a side by side comparison of the specks). Remember, I'm not industry insider or technician only a consumer (and a huge gadget junkie) but I think I'll wait another year to see what comes up.

[HansTWN]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

How "heavy" is it?

IF you turn off the LCD screen and fold it back... is the battery life that much less?

BOb

I have not seen any data on the edge's weight, I presume the same as comparable size netbook monitor, i.e. heavier than the e-ink screen. No big deal, but you won't be holding it in one hand for too long (as you can see from the video you can comfortably hold the Que with your left hand even in landscape mode), and that is my preferred reading mode. Besides you need one hand free for operating the touch screen. Now if the two screens of the edge could be seperated....

[Dulin's Books]

There are new Stylus now that work with Capacitive touchscreens

[Estuche]

Originally Posted by HansTWN

I have not seen any data on the edge's weight, I presume the same as comparable size netbook monitor, i.e. heavier than the e-ink screen. No big deal, but you won't be holding it in one hand for too long (as you can see from the video you can comfortably hold the Que with your left hand even in landscape mode), and that is my preferred reading mode. Besides you need one hand free for operating the touch screen. Now if the two screens of the edge could be seperated....

2.75 lbs.

http://www.entourageedge.com/devices...rage-edge.html

[m-reader]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Perhaps in Spanish it means that. But in English queue is a line of something. So, you can queue up books/documents to read.

Of course, if they called it the Queue they couldn't trademark it.

BOb

BTW: Teleread recently has a post about the silly names of all the readers. After I read the post I shook my head at the time I wasted reading it. Google, Yahoo, Wii, Microsoft, Apple are all STUPID names too. But, we know what they are and what they refer to. Isn't that all that is important.

I agree. They should've gone the way of Sci-Fi channel (Sy-Fy). Dumb it down people - call it Q! Oh, wait they can't register that either!
Even their slogan sounds a bit off - "Live, Work, Que". Is that like Live and Work in order to stand in a Queue?
It just doesn't work for me.

But name aside, it looks pretty good. I don't know if I can wait until April though. The switcharoo back to my PDA after marrying off my Iliad isn't working well at all for my eyes.
Before I saw the demos, I had all but given up on the idea of being able to read techincal PDFs on eReaders without reflowing and cropping.

[vivaldirules]

I'm excited but puzzled. This is very close to something I could use daily at work but it seems to lack any capability of annotating documents. I heard him say in the video "no stylus" and I was rather shocked and dismayed. On the other hand I think I also heard "virtual keyboard" but now I can't find it mentioned in the specs anywhere. So, aside from allowing one to read A4/Letter PDFs on a light, durable e-ink screen, what's this good for again?

[daffy4u]

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

I'm excited but puzzled. This is very close to something I could use daily at work but it seems to lack any capability of annotating documents. I heard him say in the video "no stylus" and I was rather shocked and dismayed. On the other hand I think I also heard "virtual keyboard" but now I can't find it mentioned in the specs anywhere. So, aside from allowing one to read A4/Letter PDFs on a light, durable e-ink screen, what's this good for again?

From the 8GB version specs: Edit - it's the same for the 4GB version

Product Specifications

* Connectivity: Cellular (GSM), Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g), USB, Bluetooth ® 2.0
* Memory: 8 GB (Approx. 7.6 GB available for user data)
* Display (viewable area): 10.5-inch diagonal, 944 x 1264 pixels at 150ppi, 8 gray levels
* User Interface: Full Touchscreen, Virtual Keyboard
* Battery: Rechargeable Lithium-ion battery, charging via computer or wall charger
* Dimensions: 8.5" x 11" x .3"
* Weight: Approximately 17 ounces

[vivaldirules]

Ooops. Thanks, duckie! Any clues about the limits that the virtual keyboard could be used? For example, did anyone see the ability to create note files or editing documents? Or is this likely just for searching and navigation?

[jasonkchapman]

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

I'm excited but puzzled. This is very close to something I could use daily at work but it seems to lack any capability of annotating documents. I heard him say in the video "no stylus" and I was rather shocked and dismayed. On the other hand I think I also heard "virtual keyboard" but now I can't find it mentioned in the specs anywhere. So, aside from allowing one to read A4/Letter PDFs on a light, durable e-ink screen, what's this good for again?

According to the support pages, annotation is enabled for all content types. It also specifically states that the screen is finger touch only, no stylus.

QUE has a shatter-proof, scratch resistant plastic touch screen that includes a built-in virtual keyboard.

Another question that I saw upthread is also answered. Two devices can't share an account.

[pilotbob]

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

Ooops. Thanks, duckie! Any clues about the limits that the virtual keyboard could be used? For example, did anyone see the ability to create note files or editing documents? Or is this likely just for searching and navigation?

You can annotate with one of the $12 styluses that work on touch screens that someone linked to in this thread a few days back.

I assume the stuff you write on with your finger will save with the document?

BOb

PS: Have you seen the Edge demo?

[kjk]

Originally Posted by pilotbob

You can annotate with one of the $12 styluses that work on touch screens that someone linked to in this thread a few days back.

I think a lot of the dismay over the stylus stuff is that the new interfaces are obviously no longer stylus-specific; you can buy a stylus that mimics a finger gesture, but it probably won't be the same.
(Personally, I'm happy never to go back to my Palm V and its stylus, but I know some people are very comfortable with that interface)

[Dulin's Books]

Originally Posted by vivaldirules

Ooops. Thanks, duckie! Any clues about the limits that the virtual keyboard could be used? For example, did anyone see the ability to create note files or editing documents? Or is this likely just for searching and navigation?

search navigation and annotation.You can use your finger to circle things and "write" on the documents. Id prefer to write with a stylus but as I said to earlier in here and as I told the PL folks today there ARE capacitive stylus available now.

I spent 15 minutes or so with one today and I am really really impressed. I clearly hadn't wrapped my head around how thin 1/3 of an inch really is. Its less than a full legal pad. I thought the interface was well done.

A couple things I would change. Staus bar for one you can't just poke the middle of the status bar to jump forward/back When you touch there it brings up a bar in increments of like twenty- 75-95-115 etc .If you touch "75" it will go to 75 but if you touch in between then it gives you another bar for 76,77.78 etc for you to choose. Just over done and a little complicated.

No just notes now but they are already planning to add by april.

you can scribble on a document with your finger or you can place little graphical flags or you can annotate with the keyboard. when you annotate it makes a little square sticky note on the page with your typed text tha tyou can re-position. ALL of these notes on a PDF can be EXPORTED WITH THE PDF No fussing about they just go with the pdf.

There were a couple menu/selection things I would do differently but over all i think its a really well thought out device. I'd be happy to have one.

Of the Push stuff like email and subscriptions etc will push to the device over the wife so you dont NEED the 3g to get the full use of the device. Oh the vent thingy on the bottom is a speaker that gives a little tone for feedback when you make selections etc.

But it definitely is a business oriented device. There are some other large format devices devices coming that will be more suited to casual/educational/scientific reading

[random50]

Originally Posted by Dulin's Books

search navigation and annotation.You can use your finger to circle things and "write" on the documents. Id prefer to write with a stylus but as I said to earlier in here and as I told the PL folks today there ARE capacitive stylus available now.

My concern is that if a finger is required, that means contact has to be made over a fairly large area in order to make a mark, and that in turn means the writing in any notes you make will have to be large, and therefore very brief. A stylus type substitue would have the same issue, I'd have thought. Valid concern or not?

But it definitely is a business oriented device. There are some other large format devices devices coming that will be more suited to casual/educational/scientific reading

Can you give some names?

Also, how did you find the responsiveness, especially when note taking and using the virtual keyboard? In the videos, it doesn't look spectacular.

[DawnFalcon]

if you can make annotations, you can have a blank doc and "annotate" it to take notes..