Apple Tablet -- Who needs it?

[stustaff]

Originally Posted by menevets

Thanks. Can you transfer any type of file (pdf) with Quick Office or is it just Word and Excel?

PDF, Word, Excel, powerpoint, Text. off teh top of my head.

[kjk]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I'm not talking the 1st gen iPod Touch. The current iPod Touch was supposed ot have a camera, but does not due to quality control of some kind with the camera.

I think you really need to differentiate your posts on these topics between what is fact and what you are speculating about.

As an example, this is not a fact.

[AprilHare]

Originally Posted by chainring

Ok, I don't care who has "X" number of post counts and *may* help in other threads. This has gotten ridiculous.

I'm saying this to JSWolf, AprilHare, and anyone else who is being a plain and simple jerk.

Plain? Never! Simple? Nope, elegant (I hope). Jerk? - Seriously?

Sticks and stones may break my bones but Apple fanatics will never hurt me!

Originally Posted by chainring

If you don't like Apple's products, fine, so be it. Please, leave this thread and go have fun with whatever purchase makes you feel so morally superior to those who enjoy Apple products! Don't let the door hit you in the rear.

Yet you don't offer me any incentive to do so and no real defence for Apple. How convenient for you.

[AprilHare]

Originally Posted by mores

No doubt about it - what I'm trying to establish here is that not everyone who buys something with an apple on it is a fanboy and buys anything with an apple on it.

Not every one, true.

Originally Posted by mores

uhm ... sony fanboys are tasteful and apple fanboys are not? right!

Aye. I don't see Sony fanboys setting up websites to promote every single Sony product, for instance.

Originally Posted by mores

yet you continue to call people fanboys, not knowing what actually makes someone a fanboy? Talk about getting your facts straight

I think you're missing the spirit of the word 'fanboy'. Think fanatic boy, i.e. immature male fanatics. Filled with specious arguments and rabid support without justification or indeed supporting evidence.

Originally Posted by mores

Stockholm syndrome, anyone smell stockholm syndrome?

According to Wikipedia:

In psychology, the Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express adulation and have positive feelings towards their captors that appear irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.

What this has to do with anything I'm not quite sure. I'm quite thankful I'm not held hostage by Apple or its fanboys anymore though

Originally Posted by mores

See, I have had 2 problems ever since I switched to using Macs - one loose cooling fan and one non-working speaker, both of which were repaired at no cost within an hour or so. No spontaneous resets, no BSODs, no reinstallation of the OS, no crashing outlook due to filled up PST files, no problems with SPAM, no problems with virii, no problems with trojans ... All I ever do on my parents' and in-laws' computers is fix things, clean things up, undo the installation of 25 browser toolbars, and update virus databases. I've had it up to here (see me drawing a virtual line 50cm above my head) with system fixing, I am tired of fixing things. I only do it because I have to or else be disposessed My friends spend an estimated 10% of their time not working but to tinkering with their machines instead. I have only had the mentioned 2 hours of repair time in the last 6.5 years, distributed over 3 Apple laptops.

I'm glad Apple fanatics have decided the enemy is Microsoft Windows. They hope that's the only competition because they know operating systems based on Linux or OpenSolaris could blow Microsoft out of the water and work with parents' and in-laws' computers solving their problems in situ, but they're too busy promoting overpriced Apple hardware to acknowledge this.

Originally Posted by mores

You're regurgitating ancient misinformation. Back then it was the old-school turntable generation having a problem with the newfangled MP3 with it's lack of depth and soul and whatever. Very much like the "paper-smell" fraction that's giving eBooks a hard time.

The sound quality out of a cheap pair of earphones *is* bad. Doesn't matter if they are blessed by and overpriced by Apple.
You can buy lovely noise cancelling headphones to replace them, but Apple fanboys (and Apple itself through advertising) promote 'the look'. Figures.

Originally Posted by mores

This thread is amazing. It's turned into an Apple bashing - however objectively the "fanboys" try to argument there is no finding a middle ground with the aPple haters who I shall now call "Billyboys" just for the sake of aggravating them.

I'm outta here, rubbing my iPhone all over my body and kneeling in front of my HisJobsNess shrine.

And here you show your fanboy quality. Again with Steve Jobs as saviour, Bill Gates as the Devil, and anyone who dares to cross you on anything Apple as demons.
Billyboy indeed! Any Linux users other than me feel offended?

[stustaff]

Originally Posted by AprilHare

Plain? Never! Simple? Nope, elegant (I hope). Jerk? - Seriously?

Sticks and stones may break my bones but Apple fanatics will never hurt me!

Yet you don't offer me any incentive to do so and no real defence for Apple. How convenient for you.

Maybe he is just tired of replying to you?

I know i am, thats why im not replying to anyone else on here who is saying things that arent true or stating rumours as fact etc or adding nothing to the thread.
Lets try and get this thread back on topic and talk apple tablet not ;my dad is bigger than your dad'

And yes im aware I have been guilty of the same but come on lets try and get this thread out of the play ground.

[JSWolf]

I know this thread has degraded from the original topic and I do admit I've helped it do so. So to get back on topic.

If Apple makes a tablet that's just a larger iPod Touch, then I don't see it as anything special and really think it's a waste of Apple's time to do this. But if the tablet is a true OS X computer, then it might be ok. That we'd have to wait and see.

[stustaff]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I know this thread has degraded from the original topic and I do admit I've helped it do so. So to get back on topic.

If Apple makes a tablet that's just a larger iPod Touch, then I don't see it as anything special and really think it's a waste of Apple's time to do this. But if the tablet is a true OS X computer, then it might be ok. That we'd have to wait and see.

cheers

I really do swing between the two ideas , Im really happy with using my iphone for games, reading(short), web(brief), music, email, calendar, as a vnc client to control my mac at home and then other bits and bobs.

Thats mostly what I would use my tablet for as well as probably typing a little and watching movies.

So actually a big iPhone would do for me 95% of the time. Not sure what I would gain by having a larger more functional OS on there?

however if that were its design i would not want to pay more than $600.

If it were a small computer that I can dock at home and use my bluetooth keyboard with allowing me to lose the laptop then I would be prepared to pay more like $1000.

Key differences i would want for teh extra cost are a full OSX and at least 200Gb storage.

[chainring]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

I know this thread has degraded from the original topic and I do admit I've helped it do so. So to get back on topic.

If Apple makes a tablet that's just a larger iPod Touch, then I don't see it as anything special and really think it's a waste of Apple's time to do this. But if the tablet is a true OS X computer, then it might be ok. That we'd have to wait and see.

Thank you for turning around on your input here.

I'm not sure it would be a waste of Apple's time to design, market, and sell a larger iPod Touch. I would wager there are a great number of people that want what's basically a cut down computer for internet browsing, emailing, reading blogs/articles/forums, etc... Let's face it, you don't need a desktop, nor a laptop, or even a netbook, to do those things. A tablet, if it's thin and light enough, could serve that purpose very well. Add in Bluetooth connectivity to a keyboard and mouse, now you have a really decent solution for banging out longer emails. Once you're done, pick it up off a dock (speculation) and walk about your house.

On the flip side, I would rather have a machine that runs Snow Leopard, or at least a compact version of it. I'd want something that can run OS X AND Windows 7. Why? Because I realize that each has their strengths and weaknesses. If having that ability made it over $1000, no thanks.

It all depends though, and there simply is too much speculation in the market to make any kind of decision at this time.

[JSWolf]

The problem with a large iPod Touch tablet is that if it's just a bigger screen, then really, it's not going to be all that useful. Let's say the price is $1000. Would you want a tablet for that much that's fairly closed? The iPod Touch is a closed system. Apple is keeping control over it. For a tablet to be of use, it should be open like a computer is. So really, any tablet from Apple should be an OS X based tablet and fully open.

[chainring]

Originally Posted by AprilHare

Plain? Never! Simple? Nope, elegant (I hope). Jerk? - Seriously?

Sticks and stones may break my bones but Apple fanatics will never hurt me!

Yet you don't offer me any incentive to do so and no real defence for Apple. How convenient for you.

Yes, a jerk. You're offering nothing to this thread, but keep denigrating those who have expressed an interest in something that may fit within their lifestyle. That is a jerk and a troll. I suspect you wouldn't say half the things you've written in this thread to someone's face. That, my fellow reader, is an Internet thug.

How's this for incentive: the little icon with an exclamation point. You know the one.

Now I offer an alternative: contribute to this thread in a positive manner, with facts, keeping the belittling comments at bay, and save face.

I challenge you to do better.

[stustaff]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

So really, any tablet from Apple should be an OS X based tablet and fully open.

for ME I would agree but do the general public need that?
would it sell more devices?

maybe a few but not millions.

the iPhone OS i guess has been apples most succesful ever, I think theyy will stick wit that for any iSlate, if you want more I think it will be a laptop that is suggested.

[chainring]

Originally Posted by JSWolf

The problem with a large iPod Touch tablet is that if it's just a bigger screen, then really, it's not going to be all that useful. Let's say the price is $1000. Would you want a tablet for that much that's fairly closed? The iPod Touch is a closed system. Apple is keeping control over it. For a tablet to be of use, it should be open like a computer is. So really, any tablet from Apple should be an OS X based tablet and fully open.

Agreed, to a point. $1000 for a large iPod Touch, no. That same $1000 for a true OS X machine that I could dual boot with Win 7, maybe.

Time will have to tell on the possibly "closed" nature, if it truly is a large iPod Touch.

I might be construed as an Apple fanboy, simply due to owning a MacBook Pro (2006 model), a Mac Mini (2006 Intel), a 5th gen iPod, and a 2nd gen Nano. I appreciate what they each do, but I'm under no illusion that they're perfect. The iPods I leave alone. They play all my non-iTunes AAC files just fine. My MBP and Mini, I dual boot with Win 7 Ultimate, and have VMWare Fusion to run Ubuntu. Why? I realize that most of the strong video encoding tools are on Windows. Software like MeGUI, RipBot264, etc... I happen to like foobar 2000 for managing my music library, and The Godfather for audio file tagging. Playing back those same video and audio files gets handled by Plex on the Mac side of things. Each does something really well, and I go with it. Play on the strengths of one to avoid the weaknesses of another.

Thinking about it a little more, I'm not sure I'd even pay $1000 for a true OS X tablet. That's getting to 13" MacBook Pro territory. I'd say $600 - $800 could capture my attention.

[TallMomof2]

From the rumors I've read the mythical tablet will be 10" and use OSX but apps are being developed for it so the tablet sounds like a mixture of OSX and the iPhone OS.

I'm a tinkerer and am always building a PC or upgrading one. I even installed OSX on a Dell Mini 10v for my daughter because she likes OSX. It works quite well (about 95% of the OSX functions work great) but I think I'm going to install Win7 on it so it's easy to backup to my server which runs WHS. I used to have a dual boot Hackintosh but the last time I rebuilt it I left out OSX because I wasn't using it at all. It's pretty and I can do everything that I can in Win7 but I'm used to Windows products. I've never had a problem with virus or spyware on any of my home PCs (4 desktops and 2 laptops). There are plenty of free programs that monitor and take care of those potential problems.

Apple products are very pretty and easy to use but I like to tinker and Apple products aren't conducive to that. Plus they are very expensive. If Apple were more open to DIYers then I'd be more of a supporter.

[hidari]

Originally Posted by chainring

Yes, a jerk. You're offering nothing to this thread, but keep denigrating those who have expressed an interest in something that may fit within their lifestyle. That is a jerk and a troll. I suspect you wouldn't say half the things you've written in this thread to someone's face. That, my fellow reader, is an Internet thug.

How's this for incentive: the little icon with an exclamation point. You know the one.

Now I offer an alternative: contribute to this thread in a positive manner, with facts, keeping the belittling comments at bay, and save face.

I challenge you to do better.

Looks like your answers is just as pathetic. Calling peoples trolls does not help in continuing a thread.


Curious: How many of you Macheads have MSWord on your Mac? love the irony in that.

anways. I think Apple makes some good products. But, As others have said they take an old idea and put "wow" into it. They are good at that.

As April has said there are many Macheads out there that go on and on about their apple products and give cliiches such as " no viruses, no trojans" "simple" etc.... However, I could say the same about my 5 year old pc that had never had a glitch. So what....

Apple Tablet: With the hype that Apple has these days they could sell a Mactoaster and it would do well. good on them, it is a free market.

IN the end we all want a good computer no matter the company. hopefully we all are happy with our purchases; but it is fun to niggle each other from time to time.

NB: Apple is not the first company to make a Tablet.

[HansTWN]

For me a tablet only makes sense as an even more portable laptop replacement, since a tablet as a reader replacement is still at least 2 years away. For that it would have to have a full fledged operating system, a separate stand, it must be no more than 1 1/2 pounds, accept bluetooth keyboard and mouse input, play full HD video, with a battery that lasts a full day, and have a superb screen.

But just a giant size phone or ipod? That wouldn't be worth the cost.