Classic Should I go ahead and cancel my nook order and get a... - Page 3

Kris777 · 01-02-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ervserver

are you handy with tinkering with electronics at all? if so get a Kindle and a Nook then morph them together into one device, call it the Krook

Or you can call it Noodle

astrodad · 01-06-2010, 09:03 PM

I'm in the same position. I like my PRS-505 but it's getting old to have to connect to a PC to get books on the thing. My wife loves her K2, but it's too big for me. If I could get the 3G access in a smaller form factor with a device that makes it easy to get books on it, I'll be set. Wait a minute, that's the nook! Only...I tried it and it's slow, and buggy. I think I'll just wait and read a little more on my iPhone.

stangri · 01-07-2010, 05:23 AM

Slow and buggy? Sounds to me like all Windows CE/Mobile devices I've tried, not nook.

kmj1 · 01-07-2010, 08:34 AM

Well, I see there's a lot of traffic on this thread. Since I'm the original poster on this one, I thought I'd give an update on my decision. I decided to wait on my nook order to arrive and try it out and decide after I've used it. I am a little worried about it with all the problems people are reporting but I hope B&N will have updates out to fix it shortly. I determined the best way to know is to get it and try it myself so this is what I'll do. Thanks.

jasonkchapman · 01-07-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kmj1

Well, I see there's a lot of traffic on this thread. Since I'm the original poster on this one, I thought I'd give an update on my decision. I decided to wait on my nook order to arrive and try it out and decide after I've used it. I am a little worried about it with all the problems people are reporting but I hope B&N will have updates out to fix it shortly. I determined the best way to know is to get it and try it myself so this is what I'll do. Thanks.

They've had (technically) two firmware updates, and are now at ver. 1.1.1, which took care of the biggest issues. There are a couple of annoying ones left, one of which has a reasonable workaround. They've also suggested/implied/stated that another update, which will fix those last few issues, is coming within the next week or so. Personally, I'd rather they take an extra week or two to make sure it's solid.

Personally, mine's been pretty stable, except for the CRS Syndrome with regard to bookmarks. It appears no one realized that the same buffers that get flushed on the way to standby mode should also get flushed at the start of the shutdown process.

leequick1 · 01-08-2010, 08:02 AM

Removing the drm. Dream on. It is tough enough getting some authors to agree to sell their books as ebooks. Ever seen a Harry Potter for an ebook??? I haven't, even checked Amazon.

There is an ebook seller that, all their authors, not only do no drm ebooks that some of their series are free and you are encouraged to loan those to others. They also sell no regular ebook for more than 6 bucks apiece. Are they making money, apparently so. I notice no authors skipping and I notice more and more coming on board. It is Webscription.net by Baen Books.
Security on ebooks is like security on music. Apple had to jump through a bunch of hoops to begin the selling of tunes for the iPod. They actually told us what they went through to start the store, and they actually told us when they have to change things due to the companies request or agreement. You should listen in on some of the yearly meetings that are televised. They would love to drop drm, most companies, ebook readers, iPod and knockoffs, would all love to drop drm, but when the supplier demands drm, you do drm. Do the authors and music groups demand drm? Yes some, others go along with the flow and still others make sure they are drm free. Then there are a few who believe that their product will somehow be pirated from the sale of one, and everyone else will receive a copy of this one sold and they will loose millions.

Kolenka · 01-08-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by leequick1

Removing the drm. Dream on. It is tough enough getting some authors to agree to sell their books as ebooks. Ever seen a Harry Potter for an ebook??? I haven't, even checked Amazon.

Rowling is a good author, but a fool when it comes to the business side of things. She specifically said she'll never release the HP books as eBooks because she fears the effects of piracy. Well, she didn't supply, and so now those who want the HP eBooks have to go underground to find them. Which is a shame. I've got a full set of Hardbacks, and still would have paid good money to get the eBooks as well. That's lost money if I've ever seen it.

But publisher attitudes can and will change, the music industry proved their attitude can and will change with enough pressure placed on them.

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Originally Posted by leequick1

There is an ebook seller that, all their authors, not only do no drm ebooks that some of their series are free and you are encouraged to loan those to others. They also sell no regular ebook for more than 6 bucks apiece. Are they making money, apparently so. I notice no authors skipping and I notice more and more coming on board. It is Webscription.net by Baen Books.

Baen is unique in a lot of ways. It's sad to see that he passed away awhile back, because he was an extremely astute businessman, and a realist. I wish I could find an article written by one of Baen's employees, as it really did a good job explaining why Baen Books is DRM-free, and why DRM is bad for the book industry. It basically cemented my choice to purchase any eBooks straight from them if I could.

jasonkchapman · 01-08-2010, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolenka

I wish I could find an article written by one of Baen's employees, as it really did a good job explaining why Baen Books is DRM-free, and why DRM is bad for the book industry. It basically cemented my choice to purchase any eBooks straight from them if I could.

You may be thinking of Eric Flint's "Salvos Against Big Brother" columns that he's done as editor of Jim Baen's Universe.

Kolenka · 01-08-2010, 05:19 PM

Yeah, I was just trying to remember which article it was. It had a pretty good history on why Baen was against DRM, rather than specifically tearing down DRM on its own. It was rather insightful into how Jim Baen thought about approaching eBook sales in general, why DRM was a bad idea, and why piracy wasn't as big an issue that was worth all the moaning about from publishers.

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01-06-2010, 09:03 PM	#32
astrodad Guru Posts: 962 Karma: 568242 Join Date: Dec 2007 Device: Kindle Oasis 3, Kindle Paperwhite 1, iPad, iPhone	I'm in the same position. I like my PRS-505 but it's getting old to have to connect to a PC to get books on the thing. My wife loves her K2, but it's too big for me. If I could get the 3G access in a smaller form factor with a device that makes it easy to get books on it, I'll be set. Wait a minute, that's the nook! Only...I tried it and it's slow, and buggy. I think I'll just wait and read a little more on my iPhone.

01-07-2010, 05:23 AM	#33
stangri Addict Posts: 352 Karma: 55400 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: YVR/BWS/PUJ Device: nook	Slow and buggy? Sounds to me like all Windows CE/Mobile devices I've tried, not nook.

01-07-2010, 08:34 AM	#34
kmj1 Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: B&N nook & Sony PRS-300	Well, I see there's a lot of traffic on this thread. Since I'm the original poster on this one, I thought I'd give an update on my decision. I decided to wait on my nook order to arrive and try it out and decide after I've used it. I am a little worried about it with all the problems people are reporting but I hope B&N will have updates out to fix it shortly. I determined the best way to know is to get it and try it myself so this is what I'll do. Thanks.

01-08-2010, 08:02 AM	#36
leequick1 Member Posts: 23 Karma: 20 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: held captive on long island Device: Cybook, rocketbook, rb1100, palms, nook, iPhone/iTouch, Jetbook lite	Removing the drm. Dream on. It is tough enough getting some authors to agree to sell their books as ebooks. Ever seen a Harry Potter for an ebook??? I haven't, even checked Amazon. There is an ebook seller that, all their authors, not only do no drm ebooks that some of their series are free and you are encouraged to loan those to others. They also sell no regular ebook for more than 6 bucks apiece. Are they making money, apparently so. I notice no authors skipping and I notice more and more coming on board. It is Webscription.net by Baen Books. Security on ebooks is like security on music. Apple had to jump through a bunch of hoops to begin the selling of tunes for the iPod. They actually told us what they went through to start the store, and they actually told us when they have to change things due to the companies request or agreement. You should listen in on some of the yearly meetings that are televised. They would love to drop drm, most companies, ebook readers, iPod and knockoffs, would all love to drop drm, but when the supplier demands drm, you do drm. Do the authors and music groups demand drm? Yes some, others go along with the flow and still others make sure they are drm free. Then there are a few who believe that their product will somehow be pirated from the sale of one, and everyone else will receive a copy of this one sold and they will loose millions.

01-08-2010, 05:19 PM	#39
Kolenka <Insert Wit Here> Posts: 1,017 Karma: 1275899 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Puget Sound Device: Kindle Oasis, Kobo Forma	Yeah, I was just trying to remember which article it was. It had a pretty good history on why Baen was against DRM, rather than specifically tearing down DRM on its own. It was rather insightful into how Jim Baen thought about approaching eBook sales in general, why DRM was a bad idea, and why piracy wasn't as big an issue that was worth all the moaning about from publishers.