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So why does copyright not have to change again? The current method of doing things is less than a century old, but it's big companies are fighting to ensure that things will never change against them. Oh, it's futile (their revenues are dropping, even as the money going to the creators increases), but they can and will do a lot of damage to our society and legal systems in the process if we let them.
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If you made something, how can you be sure you invented it first, and that you have that "right", not someone else who came upon it earlier? The whole concept of "inherent" right to an idea comes apart under closer inspection. |
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That has happened many time with "ideas" and that's where the courts come into play. I don't decide, you don't decide, the court of LAW does. ![]() Please keep in mind we are not talking about idea in any case when we are talking about ebooks we are talking about products. |
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I just don't see the point in arguing along the lines of "way back in the day people used to just write stories for everyone to enjoy and didn't expect any money for it". Whilst that is certainly admirable, and many people still do that today, it does not negate the fact that in today's world many people do hope and attempt to make some sort of living from their creative output. Cheers, PKFFW |
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If we are not talking about the ideas, then it's all fine with me. You have a book. I make an exact copy of it, and your product isn't changed in any way. So you lost nothing. |
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It is funny that none of those who believe in free slave work by all authors for the good of society ever answers the pivotal question: "Why should an author's work be different from any other person's?". Yes, you have the means to copy, but that doesn't mean you have the right to copy.
With you living in western societies (that produce no tangible goods anymore to speak off) you are seriously deluding yourselves. In the end the whole Western world will end up working for China, because the West produces the ideas and Asia makes the physical products. I pity your children. You are destroying their only opportunity. Since you claim ideas are worthless, they will not be able to make a living. If you believe that everything should be free, that would be a very different society from what we live in. That would be called communism, everyone gets what he or she needs. The problem usually is that such societies never produce enough for everyone's needs because there is no incentive to create or produce. Last edited by HansTWN; 01-06-2010 at 08:56 PM. |
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Wrong on point 2 - If the law says you cannot make a copy legally you have harmed not only me but society as a whole. We all lose. |
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Sure. But are you really arguing that things like ACTA are to protect the creators? The creators are doing just fine, it's the corporations which are suffering... why should things like ACTA even be considered when the creators are, demonstrably in the market, doing fine?
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